Hey guys

i was reading in a different thread about someone who had a few problems closing a portal that someone ellse had opend , i want ask if any one knows how to open portals how do they work , what are they , and how do u know there is one there to begin with and how does it manifest its self in our reality ? is it baised on theoretical physics and things like string theory and alternet dimentions?

im very interested in this subject so if anyone could give some info it would be great. also if anyone knows any spells that can be used to open portals please share them i promis i will be carefull and wont give them to others if people are protective over their spells and magicks.

any look forward to hearing from you .

wow... thats a lot of questions....

Maybe the first question should be why you want to know so much about portals...

just cureious realy im being my nose self lol ;o)

Yes, warlok, I know a great deal about dimensional portals, and yes it helps to know a great deal of physics where transcendental forces are concerned. In nature these "portals" occur wherever there is an escalation of geostatic forces through inertia (i.e.; Bermuda Triangle). These give rise to "vector forces" (i.e.; intermediate vector bosons) that cause the fabric of local causality to become extremely tenuous, thus Lorentz frames tend to merge. The portal described in the other thread, however, is an alter-reality manifested by a spirit (nonetheless such manifestations operate on much the same principle).

To close a portal manifested by a spirit, using "magick" however requires some very acute psychic ability, that is no doubt dangerous for a non-adept. Even relying on more scientific means of neutralizing this anomaly is not to be reckoned with by any amateur. Messing with this sort of thing can be rather like opening "Pandora's Box".

The architects who designed the megalithic layout in Carnac, were clearly adepts in this science. It interesting to note that the stones were set up along tectonic fracture zones.

http://www.neara.org/ROS/roscarnac01.htm

Perhaps that site might enlighten you without too much risk.

It is one of the most basic abilities for real witches and requires no knowledge of physics, membrane theory or cosmic bubbles.

The scientists are beginning to find things witches have known and used forever. Ceremonial magick does it at times, using the long way round and lots of dressups so that might be attractive to someone with your kind of interest. No-one with any sense would give you a 'spell' for it. That is nonsense. You will just have to do the work.

If you believe 'wiccan' and similar revivalist mumbo jumbo then the veils will be thinner on October 31st. If you go to a pagan circle and fall asleep in it you will find a pathway. You will probably come back to this dimension or one close enough you won't notice the difference.

And if you take that ceremonial road you will have to be a lot more interested in the finer points of punctuation and 'spelling' than you seem to be. Imagine getting a dot or two and a squiggle in the wrong place in your symbolic diagrams and calling up the wrong daemon!

jape

Thanks Jape, that pretty well sums up the loose ends in a nutshell. It's always nice to see someone with a natural understanding of these things.

Dont know sod all about portals! me thinks you been watching too much tv!


"In the wood Robert chops his wood in entering from the west, about 500 yards in you should pass the biggest oak tree you have ever seen in your entire life, just a few paces from this tree sticking a few inches out of the ground you should see a small knoll, here if you have the time and the imagination you might be able find an entrance into another realm, one of billions into the fabled world of fairy.
But please be aware! Despite what you might have read about how to get in and out of fairyland, none of those exceptionally written pieces of literature had thought to make any mention of red tape, paperwork, forms in triplicate and all associative bureaucracy. This makes travel between the realms inconvenient and fairly rare, for a Majestas (fancy name for a fairy) to leave fairyland she needs not only to have a visa and a passport but also a letter from the council of grey elves, who have to get written permission from the white guild, who just like to be mysterious. For a human to enter fairyland all he has to do is recite a poem spin round three times and take a seat in the waiting room. The catch being one night in fairyland a few dances and some decent beer takes about four hundred years."

WWayne lorder - One should only gallop on horses (a work in progress)

Yes, well try a few visits to the Red Lion in Avebury and you could be in for a surprise!

Ahhh the Red Lion...the only pub where the Pagan 'uniform' was the norm....

Then of course we find that gravity goes sideways through the 'branes, oh sorry, physicists haven't worked that out yet, and it is a called a 'weak' force! It is 39,000,000,000,000 ths as weak as electromagnetic force which is strong in this realm. John Dee was close with 38 realms each with a billion angels and if you include this realm thats it.
Anyway that explains how I managed to finally levitate a couple of weeks ago and no I hadn't been on the scrumpy.
I got lost on an acid trip in about '73 and couldn't find the right portal so ended up here when I came down. Or at least, I think it was here. Close enough is good enough and helps with the tricks.
btw evermorelong, faery isn't strictly speaking another realm to my experience, it is sideways (or down, depending on where your legs are). Don't take this wrong but I do prefer the archaic spelling 'faery' as a witch and writer, 'fairy' is a bit like 'magic'. Common, lol.
The dimensions have dimensions and that is infinity and eternity. Now, in other words. See?
jape

Common? well i did grow up on a council estate!
and your experience is your experience
and my experience is my experience
and my fridges experience is my fridges experience
chairs are not defined by the people who sit in them
im neither a witch nor a writer
second rate poet maybe

I have never physically left this 'realm'
ive no plans to
as im reasonably happy with it
the probability axis et al

a certain small green associate of mine might disagree with you about fairy ok faery or fada or fata or hada or fae or faye not being strictly another realm.

see? seasons blah lol

Heh, heh, me thinks you are an elf and who knows what's hiding in that refridgerator!

'n fawr choblyn it could be possible! my mothers only 4ft tall and very fierce!
me and the fridge get along fine except when it needs feeding.
its the kitchen sink cupboards that causes all the trouble!


'n ddedwydd chynaeafa

i ended up here a short time ago through an accident and now i`ve spent billions of combinations trying to get back home.

Well it does help to take out the garbage before the trolls get wind of it!

Like a pagan remake of Quantum Leap, then...

You dont need spells to open a portal ( i call them gateways)...its very easy to inadadvertently wander into one when you mind is on other things.

They show up much better at night though. There are loads of them, an at night they show up as the darkest black, when other things around them are easy to see an make out.
Avoid looking for more than a glance though, unless you want to attract the attention of its gate keepers, or other things that might be looking out, unless you are very confident at being able to hold your own.
Most entities with any sense avoid gateways like the plague. It takes a demon with balls to tussle with a shade. Most avoid , its less hassle.

Rain * who dosn't watch TV*

The Trolls, they usually collect the garbage on mondays!

Indeed the trolls get quite ornery when I'm not on schedule!

would have thought german trolls a bit more intelletual than their welsh conterparts? there where a fair few welsh trolls out partying last night and they where definitly mean. slobbinering over the witches and spilling special brew everywhere.

Nah, once German trolls get into the brew, they make such a ruckus it stirrs up the kobolds, and that's when hell really breaks loose. Btw, my paternal gran was Welsh from around Llantwit Major, but I think somekind of berserker got into the lineage, resulting in alot of explosively tempered grinning little critters with big heads and an affinity for stirring up pure chaos, so I know what you mean!

i was actually born in Dusseldorff while dad was in the army.
same here but you would have thought some of the local human culture would have rubbed off on them.
Anyway i would just love to see a troll reading philosophy!
but nearest my elf aquantance gets is the tv mag!

Yes, most curious. I was in Soest back between 1965-71. My Prussian grandfather lived in Lippstadt, then moved to Korbecke on the Möhnesee. I worked the bars of various discoteks in Soest, with alot of friends of various creeds and breeds. My mother spent her formative years in the Luftwaffe, and my father was in the Canadian Army the longest time. Of course the Canadians could never figure us out for the strange European breed that we are. Needless to say we ended up staying here because we're just not into that new world order stuff. Imagine a troll reading Nitsche?! Heh, heh, I only fear that the sky may fall on my head!

They say that what goes around comes around- pretty ironic huh?

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Yes, most curious. I was in Soest back between 1965-71. My Prussian grandfather lived in Lippstadt, then moved to Korbecke on the Möhnesee. I worked the bars of various discoteks in Soest, with alot of friends of various creeds and breeds. My mother spent her formative years in the Luftwaffe, and my father was in the Canadian Army the longest time. Of course the Canadians could never figure us out for the strange European breed that we are. Needless to say we ended up staying here because we're just not into that new world order stuff. Imagine a troll reading Nitsche?! Heh, heh, I only fear that the sky may fall on my head!

They say that what goes around comes around- pretty ironic huh?

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according to some ancestor thingy i did recently, some trace your family tree thing
dads family originated in denmark, and my mothers family appear to have been Romanies.
i just love irony, clichae,going round in circles, trolls reading Schopenhauer or hume, Nietzsche might give them dangerous ideas!
sorry i carnt write for laughing

Yes, my resident kobold quite agrees with Schopenhauer, but does have an affinity Pushkin's poetry. He's also convinced that Angela Merkel is a pixi in valkiri drag!

what is your kobolds name?
mines currently watching cartoons, he's got no interest in books without pictures, i used to let him amuse himself on the pc, but he abused that so ive banned him. I have tried to educate him but he just pulls stupid faces and says he carnt concentrate because all the faeries have gone, theyve gone because he ate them all!. On Angela Merkel might be right, least its not mr blair!

His name is Gerhard, and spent some time in the Foreign Legion before he passed on from human existence but somehow his shadow didn't make it across that threshold. Being as we're long time friends from before, I agreed he could stick with me on my journey because I can get him back to his old self when the time comes...so he has a nice comfortable place to stay until then, with plenty of trolls to feast on when the going gets tough, so the faeries are quite safe around here.

elphic fell out of a kitchen sink cupboard in 1987, hes fairly cagey about his life prior to that. Due to his sticky fingers (hes a thieving little git) weve fell out a few times. but we get along ok mostly.

Well, as long as you know where he keeps his stash, it's not too much of a problem.

Oh i know where is stash is! but its the things he steals, washing lines, bicycle wheels, gates, once even a chest freezer, presently its cats(mine got runover last year) i do tell him its wrong to take things that belong to other people, he sort of listens. anyway back to the original thread if anybody should know anything about portals he should, i tried to talk to him about it last night, claims he doesnt know anything about anything. So ill just leave it at that

Reading with stunned fascination - more, please! Who ever goes through these portals and why? I dare you to explain it!

Reading with stunned fascination - more, please! Who ever goes through these portals and why? I dare you to explain it!

Whoops, sorry, I think I accidentally went through a portal and came back in almost the same place. Or maybe I just pressed the 'back' button and thought I'd erased my post and posted it again before I realised the first one was still there and I didn't know how to erase it. Or something.

eek! quick someone check Julai for a goatee or a distinct lack of clothing, sure signs of 'evil counterparts from other dimensions'

Oooo! Transdimensional evil twins?! I've run into a few of those in the odd places! You have to keep a karma reader handy to keep track sometimes. It can get really confusing.

Well Julai I can tell you I had some really bizarre experiences with those. The weirdest was on the dockyard of Halifax, Nova Scotia, when I was 22. I was with two friends, and we felt like a very strong magnetic force pulling us onto the dock where the schooner was tied up. I suddenly realized I had seen this in a vision at the age of two, and upon this realization it was as if those two frames briefly merged where I had a glimpse of some higher dimensional realm. It was very much like Nikolai Tesla described of these things, but words fail me. One thing is clear: given the right combination of quasi-hydrostatic conditions, spacial boundaries can become quite tenuous.
It also helps to have some very acute perceptual ability to find your way through these things.
The scale of them vary from a perceptual phenomena (as is around Verdun) up to temporality shifts where you find yourself interacting with that realm. Beware! whatever injuries you sustain in that realm are real!