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Caruma
smile.gif Several people have asked me to explain my path and now that starred appears to have gone I can do that, hopefully without persecution.

The path I follow is called "The Cnul". I have been told that it was founded around 7 million years ago and, although this sounds extremely far fetched and I am sceptical myself, I can only go on what I have been told. As I did before, I don't ask you to believe me, only to accept my path.

The History

The Cnul were founded by Seres, a man and Goco, a woman. It was founded after a great war between two tribes who had been fighting for 800 years. Noone know why they were fighting, only that they were enemies and would never be anything else. The two tribes were the Karzul and the Lon.

Seres or Goco were neither Lon nor Karzul, they came from a tribe of nomads. The fighting stopped suddenly because the tribe of nomads, called the Jeratico, got trapped between the two tribes during a battle. They were a peaceful tribe and so refused to fight on one side of the other. The Lon accepted this and fought around them but the Karzul attacked them because they thought that they should fight for them. The Jeratico's numbers were dwindling but they sat amidst the fighting and meditated, calling out to nature to take them willingly, whilst trying to preserve their strength. Half the Jeratico had been killed when suddenly everything went silent and then everything started to shudder and the earth moved. This went on for several hours until suddenly, in the distance, a blue blob could be seen, growing larger by the second, rushing towards them. It was water and it carved a huge gash in the ground where it flowed. It encircled the Jeratico and left the Karzul on one bank which they named Knarzaltrosr and the Lon on the other bank which they named Drest. All nature flourished around and in the river and the Jeratico were safe on an island in the middle of the huge river.

This was the birth of the Amazon rainforest.

This had been caused by a some sort of magick but no one from any of the tribes knew where or from who it had come from. As the Jeratico explored the island the came to a huge opening in the trees. A giant tree stood in the centre, sixty, seventy times as tall as the others. The Cabarua. Magick flowed from this tree, powerful magick. Magick strong enough to cause the forest to grow into adult trees overnight. The people of Jeratico lived there for hundreds of years until eventually the leader of the Karzul got it into his mind to cross the river with his tribe to kill the Jeratico and claim the island as his own. His advisers, who dabbled in magick, told him not to because it was at present against natures will, but he ignored them and prepared to travel across the huge river. They had to construct boats out of the massive trees and all the while the while, his advisers were telling him not to. He tried and failed to cross the river and was drowned in the torrent.

After that, all the trees in Knarzaltrosr "gave up the will to live". They just died, because of what the leader had tried to do.

Seres and Goco formed the Cnul to replenish the trees in Knarzaltrosr. They weaved magick drawn from the Cabarua to encourage plants to grow and animals to thrive. The Amazon, or Ilennor as it was named by the Jeratico, rainforest swelled to create a gigantic forest, but then gradually it shrank back because it was sustained by magick and the magick weaved by Seres and Goco was not strong enough on it's own. Nineteen people either volunteered or were chosen and the Cnul were formed.

Us

We are dedicated to helping nature, all plant and all animals which are dwindling to thrive. At first we could not support much but now we help nature everywhere in the world and all our magick stems from the Cabarua.

To start with we had to pass the knowledge on from generation to generation because we only lived for about thirty years, but then the Cabarua gave us "inner sight" (I don't know how it did it!), so we can look into our minds and recall the information which we need from a previous life, e.g. the ever-changing tongue, knowledge where we come from, what our purpose is ect...

"The Team"

Seres
Goco
Xkanta
Surrii
Xelauh
Turabi
Fetksi
Ceriav
Yayāya
Cirinc
Ponhaq
Kaocoh
Queved
Tangac
Doayei
Laoxha
Skueyf
Biqeli
Caruma

(from all over the world)

I realise this could cause alot of problems so, Mods, if you feel the need, do whatever you have to. smile.gif

Caruma

Caruma
Mods, I seem to have duplicated this. blink.gif Could you remove one please?

Thanks. biggrin.gif

Caruma
lady_templar_99
Thank you for that. I found it very interesting to read. AS far as I'm concerned your beliefs are your own. I have no right to question its authenticity, its your belief.

Its not as though you believe in poking peoples eyes out with sticks or something equally harmful.

ta very much Caruma

temps
Quasizoid
Are you familiar with the Law of the Mother Goddess and the Nine Worlds? smile.gif
Caruma

No Quazi, I'm not, but I'm always willing to learn. Could you tell me about them?

Caruma
Herneoakshield
I've moved lady_templar_99 's post into this thread and will delete the other one.
Caruma

Thanks Herne. smile.gif
lady_templar_99
Thanks lol couldn't remember what i had writen to put it on the other one!
Caruma
Quazi, I looked at this site

http://www.cauldronfarm.com/nine/helheim.html

Should I believe it or not? If I should then I can certainly see some strong resemblence to what I have related! huh.gif

I am slightly familiar with the mother goddess. Am I right in thinking Anu/Freyja/Venus/Gaia theory?
Caruma
Quasizoid
QUOTE(Caruma @ Jan 6 2007, 09:23 PM)
No Quazi, I'm not, but I'm always willing to learn. Could you tell me about them?

Caruma
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No problem, but it is rather lengthy so I will have to write it up as a personal message or an e-mail.
Okay?
Caruma

I must have put a reply in a couple of seconds before you! laugh.gif

Above.

Caruma
Quasizoid
Sorry, but it has nothing to do with Norse legend, rather, the Kogi tribe of Colombia. smile.gif
Caruma

OK. Could you PM me about it please?

Julai
So, Caruma, would you say that 'helping nature' is the goal of those on your path, and that you do it by means of magic?

I guess that, possibly, you also use magic to discover what is needed in order to help nature?

How do you see/experience/define 'nature' - is it as a conscious entity that you are in communion with, for example?
Caruma
QUOTE(Julai @ Jan 7 2007, 12:18 PM)
So, Caruma, would you say that 'helping nature' is the goal of those on your path, and that you do it by means of magic?

I guess that, possibly, you also use magic to discover what is needed in order to help nature?

How do you see/experience/define 'nature' - is it as a conscious entity that you are in communion with, for example?
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Hi Julai, smile.gif

Helping nature is certainly what we do, but only if it's decline is because of human intervention e.g. cutting down the Amazon rainforest. We do do it by means of magic but we help nature through will power. It is the magic that is harnessed to our will power from the Cabarua that actually helps nature. We are just "impliments" for the Cabarua to use.

We ourselves don't need to know what is needed to help nature because the magic doesn't stem from us, it stems from the Cabarua. The Cabarua knows what is needed, it just uses us to speak through and to weave the magic.

In a manner of speaking I do see nature as a constant entity. I believe that everything is joined to everything, similar to the Gaia theory. In this "everything" I exclude the human race. I believe that every time there is a dominant species, such as humans, then nature "tests" it. Like the Karzul and the Lon, if the species conforms with nature (the Lon) then nature will accept it as part of itself. However, if the species ignores nature and does what it likes (the Karzul) then nature will not accept it as part of itself.

The fact that both the Lon (nature) and the Karzul (not nature) are human, and also the fact that the Karzul were killing the Lon and were far superior in numbers, shows that there will always be some of the dominant species which will go against the rest, and even though they are few in number, if you believe/trust in nature then you will always stand a chance of prevailing, just as nature saved the Jeratico ecause they trusted nature.

Caruma

Freydis
Thank-you Caruma, that is fascinating. I was particularly interested in the concept of "inner sight". Is that something everyone has and can tap into? Is it something that you consciously call upon when needed, or does it come to you of it's own accord?
Caruma

Hi Freydis, smile.gif

I can call on it when I need to but I have to meditate calmly first. The Cabarua is still believed to be living at the very heart of the Amazon and I belive that it is because if I want to call upon the magic I need, I have to open my conciousness so wide that it touches the Cabarua's conciousness. This takes alot of time and energy.

However, if the Cabarua finds something that needs our help that we have "overlooked" (for want of a better word) then it will open it's conciousness to me instead and because it is so powerful it can do that with ease.

I believe that everybody is capable of "inner sight", I think I have just been lucky enough to have been given it by the Cabarua.

Caruma
greenowl
QUOTE(Caruma @ Jan 6 2007, 07:25 PM)

To start with we had to pass the knowledge on from generation to generation because we only lived for about thirty years, but then the Cabarua gave us "inner sight" (I don't know how it did it!), so we can look into our minds and recall the information which we need from a previous life, e.g. the ever-changing tongue, knowledge where we come from, what our purpose is ect...


Hi Caruma

interesting stuff. You mention some abilities of 'we' and 'us' and previous lives etc., and I'm wondering - is being part of the Cnul something you are born with, or how is it passed on, and, if it is passed on, who decides who to, and where does the purpose come from? Thanks! biggrin.gif
Caruma
QUOTE(greenowl @ Jan 7 2007, 05:18 PM)
Hi Caruma

interesting stuff. You mention some abilities of 'we' and 'us' and previous lives etc., and I'm wondering - is being part of the Cnul something you are born with, or how is it passed on, and, if it is passed on, who decides who to, and where does the purpose come from? Thanks!  biggrin.gif
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Hi Greenowl, smile.gif

Yes, being a Cnul is something you are born with. The Cabarua lets us see into our past lives and because of this we, in a sense, live for ever. My earliest full memory of a life is from about 5500 years ago. My earliest memory of a past life is only a snippet but I estimate it at about 3 million years ago. This means that I must have been born in my first life around then. Seres and Goco and the rest of the names listed, other than Tangac and myself, all have memory of 7 million years ago and therefore must have been born in their first life around then.

So it's passed on by the use of "inner site". You look into yourself, discover who you were in a previous life and then recall the memory from that life into your own, being the equivalent of the same person, two conciousnesses rolled into one. Although after millions of years you can recall bits and pieces of lives a long time in the past and so really you have tens of thousands of conciousnesses rolled into one.

Eventually though, even Cnul stop coming back in their next life. They can choose when to do this and two of them did choose to stop after 2 million years. That is why Tangac and myself were chosen 2 million years after the others.

Even though it is normally kept within the same people, (except when Cnul wish to die, then the gap must be filled in by a replacement e.g. me and Tangac), occasionally new people are accepted into the Cnul so that we have more people for the Cabarua's magic to flow through. We have no one like this at present because the three people that wanted to be Cnul, actually didn't. They just wanted to try and tap the magic of the Cabarua for themselves.

They didn't succeed...and in any case, people who want to become Cnul have to be accepted by the Cabarua itself.

If you are chosen by the Cabarua it will send you a dream as vivid as real life, as it did me. In the dream, a huge tree looms before you, so tall you can barely see the top. It will suddenly turn a deep watery blue and fall to the ground changing into a mighty river flowing past you, and then change into a smooth jewel, deep blue in colour, the pride of the Jeratco.



Caruma



Julai
How do you keep in touch with the others if they are scattered all around the world?
Caruma

I keep in touch with the others around the world by meditating and opening my conciousness to touch their's, just like the Cabarua.
greenowl
QUOTE(Caruma @ Jan 7 2007, 07:08 PM)
QUOTE(greenowl @ Jan 7 2007, 05:18 PM)
Hi Caruma

interesting stuff. You mention some abilities of 'we' and 'us' and previous lives etc., and I'm wondering - is being part of the Cnul something you are born with, or how is it passed on, and, if it is passed on, who decides who to, and where does the purpose come from? Thanks!  biggrin.gif
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Hi Greenowl, smile.gif

Yes, being a Cnul is something you are born with. The Cabarua lets us see into our past lives and because of this we, in a sense, live for ever. My earliest full memory of a life is from about 5500 years ago. My earliest memory of a past life is only a snippet but I estimate it at about 3 million years ago. This means that I must have been born in my first life around then. Seres and Goco and the rest of the names listed, other than Tangac and myself, all have memory of 7 million years ago and therefore must have been born in their first life around then.

So it's passed on by the use of "inner site". You look into yourself, discover who you were in a previous life and then recall the memory from that life into your own, being the equivalent of the same person, two conciousnesses rolled into one. Although after millions of years you can recall bits and pieces of lives a long time in the past and so really you have tens of thousands of conciousnesses rolled into one.

Eventually though, even Cnul stop coming back in their next life. They can choose when to do this and two of them did choose to stop after 2 million years. That is why Tangac and myself were chosen 2 million years after the others.

Even though it is normally kept within the same people, (except when Cnul wish to die, then the gap must be filled in by a replacement e.g. me and Tangac), occasionally new people are accepted into the Cnul so that we have more people for the Cabarua's magic to flow through. We have no one like this at present because the three people that wanted to be Cnul, actually didn't. They just wanted to try and tap the magic of the Cabarua for themselves.

They didn't succeed...and in any case, people who want to become Cnul have to be accepted by the Cabarua itself.

If you are chosen by the Cabarua it will send you a dream as vivid as real life, as it did me. In the dream, a huge tree looms before you, so tall you can barely see the top. It will suddenly turn a deep watery blue and fall to the ground changing into a mighty river flowing past you, and then change into a smooth jewel, deep blue in colour, the pride of the Jeratco.



Caruma
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Thanks for that, Caruma. biggrin.gif
walessheeppink
biggrin.gif So a couple of questions please ta why do you live in Derby instead of in the middle of or near the Amazon?and are you an Amazonian?if thats the right term? biggrin.gif if so whats the grub like? tongue.gif ta Love Greedy Lucy
Caruma
QUOTE(walessheeppink @ Jan 8 2007, 06:28 PM)
biggrin.gif So a couple of questions  please ta why do you live in Derby instead of in the middle of or near the Amazon?and are you an Amazonian?if thats the right term? biggrin.gif if so whats the grub like? tongue.gif ta Love Greedy Lucy
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Hello my sheepy friend! smile.gif

The reason I live in Derbyshire is because when I come back in the next life I don't get to choose where I come back, as far as I can make out it is a random selection. If I could choose I probably would live in the heart of the Amazon. I've been their once (in this life! biggrin.gif ) and is the only place I have ever felt totaly at home. I want to go back there some day, but finance is a big problem.

My soul is Amazonian, as that is where the Cnul started and I first lived, but I am physically English. I've never actually lived anywhere else but have travelled quite alot.

The food in the Amazon rainforest is much nicer than anything I've tasted anywhere else! biggrin.gif It also tastes better because it's straight from the plant and the meat is fresh.

Here is one of my favorite dishes! biggrin.gif

"Duck in tucupi" is roasted, then cut into pieces and boiled in tucupi, where it must simmer in the strong sauce for some time to acquire the flavor. Seasonings include garlic, chicory and basil. Jambu, a deliciously tart fruit, is boiled down in water with a little salt, then basted onto the duck, which is then covered by the tucupi. Pirarucu, a huge red fish, is also one of my favorites although I wouldn't eat a whole one myself. They are about 2 metres long and weigh about 80kg! ohmy.gif

That was a bit off topic wasn't it...

Caruma

Tas Mania
Maybe, but it beats the shit out of faggots!
Caruma
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walessheeppink
biggrin.gif LOL thank ewe car biggrin.gif tongue.gif where might I get me wee hooves on the tucupi sauce? tongue.gif yum tongue.gif
Caruma
The only place I've ever eaten tucupi sauce was in the Amazon so I really haven't a clue! laugh.gif

As chicory, basil and galic are the main ingredients, try mixing those together with a splash of milk and a sliver of butter and then simmering it so it all mixes together and the butter melts (these aren't all the ingredients by any means!). Don't know about the quantities but it should turn out like a creamy paste. When you put it on the fish you cook it for a bit longer to finish cooking the fish and slightly dry out the tucupi. This makes it stick to the fish.

If you want anymore Amazonian dishes I'd be happy to divulge but I think we should take it to the "Witches Kitchen Forum". smile.gif

Happy experimenting! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Caruma



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Freydis
QUOTE(Caruma @ Jan 7 2007, 04:58 PM)
Hi Freydis, smile.gif

I can call on it when I need to but I have to meditate calmly first. The Cabarua is still believed to be living at the very heart of the Amazon and I belive that it is because if I want to call upon the magic I need, I have to open my conciousness so wide that it touches the Cabarua's conciousness. This takes alot of time and energy.

However, if the Cabarua finds something that needs our help that we have "overlooked" (for want of a better word) then it will open it's conciousness to me instead and because it is so powerful it can do that with ease.

I believe that everybody is capable of "inner sight", I think I have just been lucky enough to have been given it by the Cabarua.

Caruma
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Hi Caruma,

Thanks very much. Fascinating stuff. smile.gif
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