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Flaxen
Just curious about your experiences with this. Not sure if this belongs here or in 'magic and ritual' but....

When I started to do shamanic journeys I chose a place close to me where I used to walk my dog to visualise as an entry point.

I decided to go for a long walk yesterday afternoon and decided to visit this place for the first time in ages.

As I got closer to the place I visualise, I felt what I can only describe as a kind of magnetic pull drawing me closer. The energy of the place was very different to what surrounded it. When I sat down on the bench I felt like I was only a short step away from being in a trance-like state. I also felt like something/someone was trying to communicate with me although the words were indistinct. When I walked away from the bench-this energy lessened the further away I got.

It seems that I have forged some sort of link with this place in everyday reality as well as in my journeys. I certainly never picked up on this energy previously and only really chose it cause it was close by and somewhere I could easily picture smile.gif

I wonder if others experience this changed energy in their ritual places? Do you find that the feel of a place has changed since starting rituals/meditation etc?
ArdRi79
In my experiance there are 3 things that change the energy of a place.
1) Alot of use in ritual, an example would be Tara hill thats been used as a ritual center for hundreds of years or more.

2) Alot of people gathering in one place can change things, IMO people leave energy on things and places and when theres alot of people in one place then the overall feel of it changes.

3) when a site is desecrated. Road works, alot of earth moved or renovations completely undoes the energy in no 1 and 2

I dont think ive ever experianced what youve described though. Id guess that either youve become more aware or because you used the image of the place as a psychological tool for so long actually being there had the same effect on you as the visualisation.
Paganboy28
Definately energies change.. hard to describe but they do.
evermorelong
yep!
naturemum
I was wondering about this so great thread! I was walking across a bridge in a nearby town and felt that funny urge we all sometimes feel on bridges or at station platforms - to sling yourself off, and was wondering why people sometimes feel like that.
Odd that on this bridge it was really, really strong. Then my companion said that people throw themselves off this bridge all the time. Did I feel like that because people do it so often that the energies have changed, or just because it's a handy jumpy bridge? Hmm.
I'm not remotely suicidal, in case you were wondering.
Quasizoid
Yes, bonding with a particular location leaves a "signature" both biochemical and energetic. In Nature its the subtle changes that are dynamic, while sudden drastic changes tend to cause inertia. Being as time is motion, of course the dynamic changes take over where inertia begins to erode. Its rather like the grass growing through the pavement. I've seen how Nature takes over ghosttowns and abandoned military complexes. You see it in Nature especially after a forest fire or a volcanic eruption. Indeed magick is in the intermediate long forces, the interaction between enthalpy and entropy. New life sprouts out of the stuff of decay biggrin.gif
Tas Mania
I think that by visualising the place you are strengthening your psychic links with it/the spirits of it. Plus what the others have said.
Enjoy!
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Quasizoid
QUOTE(naturemum @ Apr 9 2007, 07:43 AM)
I was wondering about this so great thread! I was walking across a bridge in a nearby town and felt that funny urge we all sometimes feel on bridges or at station platforms - to sling yourself off, and was wondering why people sometimes feel like that.
Odd that on this bridge it was really, really strong. Then my companion said that people throw themselves off this bridge all the time. Did I feel like that because people do it so often that the energies have changed, or just because it's a handy jumpy bridge? Hmm.
I'm not remotely suicidal, in case you were wondering.
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Somewhere way back when in another thread I explained the cause of such phenomena as having to do with geostatic forces. It doesn't necessarily have to be water, but a steady flow of vehicle traffic can have the same effect of building up static charges. We had that problem here in Germany at certain spots along the autobahn where too many vehicles were going off the road for no apparent cause. After intensive study by the ADAC it was found that these were "nodes" where the static charges had collected. In some places the anomalies were so severe (and of course the fatality rate) that steel rods had to be driven into the ground, even as deep as 15 meters, to dispell the charges. For the practical Pagan however, static nodes found in more natural areas are useful as a "spirit channel". Indeed that sense of "pull" tells you where, but of course you have to find a more appropriate source than on a bridge where its likely to pull you off. biggrin.gif
Herneoakshield
QUOTE(Quasizoid @ Apr 9 2007, 10:54 AM)
QUOTE(naturemum @ Apr 9 2007, 07:43 AM)
I was wondering about this so great thread! I was walking across a bridge in a nearby town and felt that funny urge we all sometimes feel on bridges or at station platforms - to sling yourself off, and was wondering why people sometimes feel like that.
Odd that on this bridge it was really, really strong. Then my companion said that people throw themselves off this bridge all the time. Did I feel like that because people do it so often that the energies have changed, or just because it's a handy jumpy bridge? Hmm.
I'm not remotely suicidal, in case you were wondering.
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Somewhere way back when in another thread I explained the cause of such phenomena as having to do with geostatic forces. It doesn't necessarily have to be water, but a steady flow of vehicle traffic can have the same effect of building up static charges.

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I can certainly relate to that, as when I am going to and returning from my psych sessions I cross a bridge over a busy ring road and always have the thought in my mind of I wonder what it would be like to jump off and find myself thinking of it. again I am not suicidal and it is or has been just that one spot each week.

Thanks for the possible explanation Quazi
Tas Mania
Probably why I can't STAND the underground! No doubt the jumpers/flingers do leave an imprint of their distress - to say nothing of the emotions experienced by those who witness and have to clear up the aftermath.
And I have also "seen" jumpers at a bridge (Erskine) notorious for this final act of desperation. VERY disconcerting.
Add to that the odd fleeting figures you "see" on empty roads...
Echoes?
Quasizoid
Yup, these signatures in the static forces certainly do give rise to "fleets". Misty full moon nights on lonely roads are especially notorious for manifesting very REAL looking figures, that you'd swear was someone actually jumping out in front of your vehicle! Also, have you ever noticed how cars have a strange habit of careening off the road into the only tree in the middle of a field? huh.gif
Tas Mania
Ah - the enigma of the feral motor car! Tend to prefer a solitary existence, but will at times foregather in spectral packs to terrify the unwary! o_biggrin.gif
I also get screaming and battle sounds - was always worst in Dundee, then I discovered there had been a bit of a bloody massacre thereabouts. Also of course, Glencoe - truly a very strange place indeed!
Freydis
I agree with you about Glencoe, Tas. I was there a couple of years ago and I had a very strong and unsettling feeling. Nothing very tangible, just strong feelings of fear and dispair and that was on a warm sunny day in the middle of July. I don't think that I'd care to be there at night or the middle of winter.

Frey
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