How can you tell if someone is a genuine tarot reader/psyhic/medium/etc rather than someone who is just "going throught the motions"???
Is it just word of mouth?
Does this apply to reiki to? And does reiki work?
Full Version: Genuine Or Not?
QUOTE(Paganboy28 @ Feb 18 2007, 10:00 AM)
How can you tell if someone is a genuine tarot reader/psyhic/medium/etc rather than someone who is just "going throught the motions"???
Is it just word of mouth?
Does this apply to reiki to? And does reiki work?
Is it just word of mouth?
Does this apply to reiki to? And does reiki work?
Having attended a spiritualist church on several occasions, I have seen some great mediums and some not so great. In the end you tend to go by personal recommendations, 'such and such is there next sunday, they are great etc .' Same sort of thing with tarot-I've had some fantastic readings and some bad ones! One of the worst was when I was on the Pier in Brighton with a friend and a 'gypsy' came out of her caravan and accosted me. She started to tell me that I had issues in my love life (what teenager doesn't!) and then proceeded to say:
'Your boyfriend has a 't' in his name'.
'no he doesn't.'
' He has a 's' in his name.'
'Er, no he doesn't!' etc. She was quite prepared to go through the whole alphabet!
Pretty obvious she didn't know what she was doing!
Not sure how it works for reiki. I was told that reiki is a universal energy and couldn't do any harm but there have been suggestions on here to the contrary.
ok wow u start some pretty interesting threads dude so qudos for that to start with,
in regards to tarot reading ( i cant tell u about reki as i have never done it or recieved any) its easy to spot a fake reader if u know what to look for.
1 they will atempt to find out whats going on in ur life by using various "cold reading" techniques" ie asking how are things at home/withmissus ect
2 word of mouth can be a powerful hint but never accept 1 persons veiw do a lil research
3 always trust ur gut instinct and never accept the fact that u have to pay most genuine reader's wont accepth payment as being able to read is a GIFT and most readers will giftu a reading
hope this helps
in regards to tarot reading ( i cant tell u about reki as i have never done it or recieved any) its easy to spot a fake reader if u know what to look for.
1 they will atempt to find out whats going on in ur life by using various "cold reading" techniques" ie asking how are things at home/withmissus ect
2 word of mouth can be a powerful hint but never accept 1 persons veiw do a lil research
3 always trust ur gut instinct and never accept the fact that u have to pay most genuine reader's wont accepth payment as being able to read is a GIFT and most readers will giftu a reading
hope this helps
You can spot a dodgy tarot reader by the number of leading questions they ask. I had one who got things wrong from the beginning. She turned over 'the lovers' then asked if I were married. 'Yes' says I, bemused and bewildered. 'Ah' said the tarot reader with a look of suddenly seeing the truth. 'That's what this card is telling me then'
I paid £5 for that reading at a Spiritualist Church!!!
I paid £5 for that reading at a Spiritualist Church!!!
Go by the feeling in your gut. Never fails!
As TM says - it's a gut thing.
It's usually a lot easier to spot a good reader/psychic than a poor one. A good reader or medium will leave you with little/no doubt. The problem is that even good psychics and readers can have off days. You'll find very few people who go into it knowing absolutely nothing about tarot and just trying to swindle you for the hell of it (met one once and it was so obvious it wasn't worth saying anything). It's rare though because to con someone you tend to need to know what you're talking about and tarot/psychic readings don't give you something concrete to sound knowledgeable about - too much risk for your average 'make money quick' person.
Therefore, a lot of readers have 'moments' - some have enough good moments consistently to make them truly impressive: a gift or skill, others are, on the whole, not gifted in the least but have worked really hard at what they do to the point where they can often have little insights that are worth hearing. An astrologer I went to was like this - she knew the subject back to front but just wouldn't let go of what she knew and read - everything she said was perfectly fine, but it was nothing I couldn't have done myself and I knew there were things she held back on through confidence perhaps - in a way I could read her reading me, she was waiting on my cues.
The best way to work out what's going on is to get involved in it yourself. If you know how tarot works, if you know how mediumship works, what they feel like, what the philosophies are and have a go at doing it yourself you'll get a better understanding of what other people are doing too.
Reiki is similar in that you'll know when it's done right more easily than when it's done wrong. So try and get a few experiences under your belt so you know what the varying levels of 'goodness' are.
Don't be too judgemental when you go in and don't suspect that, because someone asks a couple of leading or clarifying questions, that they must be a fake. Wait until they've actually given you the reading - sometimes, especially if someone's having a tough day, had a previous client that's been hard work or just tired, even good readers will need a bit of an easy 'in'. Doesn't mean what they're about to say isn't good stuff, but you'll know yourself if you feel comfortable with that person and if they're hitting the mark.
Best wishes,
Marion.
It's usually a lot easier to spot a good reader/psychic than a poor one. A good reader or medium will leave you with little/no doubt. The problem is that even good psychics and readers can have off days. You'll find very few people who go into it knowing absolutely nothing about tarot and just trying to swindle you for the hell of it (met one once and it was so obvious it wasn't worth saying anything). It's rare though because to con someone you tend to need to know what you're talking about and tarot/psychic readings don't give you something concrete to sound knowledgeable about - too much risk for your average 'make money quick' person.
Therefore, a lot of readers have 'moments' - some have enough good moments consistently to make them truly impressive: a gift or skill, others are, on the whole, not gifted in the least but have worked really hard at what they do to the point where they can often have little insights that are worth hearing. An astrologer I went to was like this - she knew the subject back to front but just wouldn't let go of what she knew and read - everything she said was perfectly fine, but it was nothing I couldn't have done myself and I knew there were things she held back on through confidence perhaps - in a way I could read her reading me, she was waiting on my cues.
The best way to work out what's going on is to get involved in it yourself. If you know how tarot works, if you know how mediumship works, what they feel like, what the philosophies are and have a go at doing it yourself you'll get a better understanding of what other people are doing too.
Reiki is similar in that you'll know when it's done right more easily than when it's done wrong. So try and get a few experiences under your belt so you know what the varying levels of 'goodness' are.
Don't be too judgemental when you go in and don't suspect that, because someone asks a couple of leading or clarifying questions, that they must be a fake. Wait until they've actually given you the reading - sometimes, especially if someone's having a tough day, had a previous client that's been hard work or just tired, even good readers will need a bit of an easy 'in'. Doesn't mean what they're about to say isn't good stuff, but you'll know yourself if you feel comfortable with that person and if they're hitting the mark.
Best wishes,
Marion.
definately trust your gut,and be aware what sometimes comes across as a bad reading,may no be so.
sometimes I have gone to see a tarot reader or a medium with specific questions/worries,and when they havent come up with A B or C to do with that particular issue,I have dismissed them. Its only been later,when that particular crisis has passed, did what they say make sense,cos it was relating to something perhaps equaly important just not what I was thinking of at the time.
But you do get some complete charlatans,who thrive cos some folks swallow anything.
Be wary of those who want credit cards,and charge more than 15 quid....in fact the very best give it for free,or for a donation to a charity.But they are rare,and often booked for years in advance!
sometimes I have gone to see a tarot reader or a medium with specific questions/worries,and when they havent come up with A B or C to do with that particular issue,I have dismissed them. Its only been later,when that particular crisis has passed, did what they say make sense,cos it was relating to something perhaps equaly important just not what I was thinking of at the time.
But you do get some complete charlatans,who thrive cos some folks swallow anything.
Be wary of those who want credit cards,and charge more than 15 quid....in fact the very best give it for free,or for a donation to a charity.But they are rare,and often booked for years in advance!
A good reader reads you, not whatever medium they're using. Thus, they will be able to follow up on any reactions you give to anything they say. And not just by leading questions: simply any response you give, however unwillingly, to what they come up with. There's loads of little tricks. Not to mention the fact that your average reading is a therapy session. Or 15 minutes of attention.
A REALLY good reader can spot you for what you are: someone genuinely seeking for an answer, someone looking for the 15 minutes of attention, someone who needs the therapy bit. Such readers can also adapt their readings to what is needed: a genuine answer, 15 minutes of babble, or a comforting chat.
If you're really looking for a good reader, go to someone you trust, or someone who is referred to you by someone you trust. If you have the time, inclination and money, go to a random reader at a fair (follow your gut) and give them a test. It may turn out that they are the real thing, or they may be crap. If they're the real thing, get their details. If they're crap, get their details.
A REALLY good reader can spot you for what you are: someone genuinely seeking for an answer, someone looking for the 15 minutes of attention, someone who needs the therapy bit. Such readers can also adapt their readings to what is needed: a genuine answer, 15 minutes of babble, or a comforting chat.
If you're really looking for a good reader, go to someone you trust, or someone who is referred to you by someone you trust. If you have the time, inclination and money, go to a random reader at a fair (follow your gut) and give them a test. It may turn out that they are the real thing, or they may be crap. If they're the real thing, get their details. If they're crap, get their details.
Personally, when I do a Tarot Reading for someone, especially in a professional capacity, I like to start off with a completely "cold" reading. I'm careful not to prompt and I avoid any leading questions. It can be quite hard sometimes, especially if the my client is nervous or shy, but I always ask a them to keep their questions until the end.
Nodding or grunting is fine, though!
After that, we can zoom in and examine interesting areas in more detail.
I have found that this method works for me. My "hit rate" is high and I find it's more helpful and satisfying for my client.
Usually the cards become a springboard, things just come into my head, must be my intuition taking over.
But sadly I never get told next weeks lottery results!
As for payment, I've seen Tarot readers charging more than £40! I just haven't got the nerve to charge that much, I'd be far too embarrased!
So I only charge £15 to cover my expenses, like advertising, etc. Oh, and I have a lttile rule that says if a client isn't satisfied with a reading in any way, they don't have to pay a thing.
So far, I've only had 1 person say that to me, but that was way back in my early days.
So, that's the way I do Tarot Reading.
Come on, form an orderly queue, no pushing at the back!
GreyWolf
I also do Weddings, Funerals and Bar-Mitzvars
No job too small, no fee too big!
Nodding or grunting is fine, though!
After that, we can zoom in and examine interesting areas in more detail.
I have found that this method works for me. My "hit rate" is high and I find it's more helpful and satisfying for my client.
Usually the cards become a springboard, things just come into my head, must be my intuition taking over.
But sadly I never get told next weeks lottery results!
As for payment, I've seen Tarot readers charging more than £40! I just haven't got the nerve to charge that much, I'd be far too embarrased!
So I only charge £15 to cover my expenses, like advertising, etc. Oh, and I have a lttile rule that says if a client isn't satisfied with a reading in any way, they don't have to pay a thing.
So far, I've only had 1 person say that to me, but that was way back in my early days.
So, that's the way I do Tarot Reading.
Come on, form an orderly queue, no pushing at the back!
GreyWolf
I also do Weddings, Funerals and Bar-Mitzvars
No job too small, no fee too big!
Does Reiki work?
Well, being a Reiki Practioner (yes, there just no start to my talents!) I can say that it does work.
Reiki Practioners need to be professionaly trained by a qualified and recognised Reiki Master. They also need professional liability insurance in order to practice.
The best way of finding a good Reiki therapist is definitely through word of mouth. Ask at the local Crystal/New Age shop, Hospital (yes, Hospital!!) or your local GP. Hospitals and GP's are difficult to fool so you should find a reputable therapist through them.
Alternatively, have a look through good old Yellow Pages, there's quite a few Reiki practicioners in there, you'll be suprised.
Or, try the International Centre for Reiki Training. Many practioners are registered there, especially if they practice Karuna Reiki
Hope this helps
GreyWolf
Well, being a Reiki Practioner (yes, there just no start to my talents!) I can say that it does work.
Reiki Practioners need to be professionaly trained by a qualified and recognised Reiki Master. They also need professional liability insurance in order to practice.
The best way of finding a good Reiki therapist is definitely through word of mouth. Ask at the local Crystal/New Age shop, Hospital (yes, Hospital!!) or your local GP. Hospitals and GP's are difficult to fool so you should find a reputable therapist through them.
Alternatively, have a look through good old Yellow Pages, there's quite a few Reiki practicioners in there, you'll be suprised.
Or, try the International Centre for Reiki Training. Many practioners are registered there, especially if they practice Karuna Reiki
Hope this helps
GreyWolf
if you have to pay for it its not true... whats real and honest in life will only ever cost you time.. when people have been blessed with such gifts and expect fame or to be payed on top of being bestowed with such a wonderful gift they are either fakes or have very poor ethics... if they really value their gift they will know that the good they put out in helping people they will get back many times over
QUOTE(fauna @ Feb 27 2007, 06:53 AM)
if you have to pay for it its not true... whats real and honest in life will only ever cost you time.. when people have been blessed with such gifts and expect fame or to be payed on top of being bestowed with such a wonderful gift they are either fakes or have very poor ethics... if they really value their gift they will know that the good they put out in helping people they will get back many times over
Greetings.
Is this refering to Paganboys origianal post or Greywolfs reply?
If the former does it mean if I gave a free tarot reading it will be true and I wouldn't be just "going through the motions"?
Does a free reading also mean I have good ethics apposed to "poor" ones?
Ye Gods, I think not!!!
I don't know the first thing about tarot reading, it's some thing I've never looked into. So I wouldn't even think about attempting a reading. If I did I can't see it being true and as for the ethics of a person who would attempt a reading without knowing what he/she was doing, well... lets not go there!
If it refers to Greywolfs reply...
Now I don't know Greywolf at all but I'm sure by reading his/her reply you can see he/she knows alot more about tarot than me and has gone to the trouble of explaining how he/she carries out a reading. The fact that he/she requests a small fee to cover such things as advertising should have no bearing on how good/truthfull a reader he/she is or his /her ethics.
Lets face it (this is a generalisation), if you go to "Mystic Megs" on Mabelthorpe front (or such like) you expect to pay for the service (more often than not it's alot). I can understand to an extent that someone might label these people as not giving truthfull readings, going through the motions and having "poor ethics".
I for one am quit sceptical about these people, but I would also be carefull about labeling them all. I wouldn't judge untill I had tried them out.
I wonder how many people who do visit such places really believe what their told and how many think of it as "abit of a laugh".
I know where I'd prefer to go.
As for a reply to Paganboy...
I agree with most of the other replys (baah). RE. If it feels right, trust your gut and all that.
If your actually asking how to find someone who you can trust to do a good/truthfull reading, I would say by word of mouth is probably the best bet.
Blessed be.
R.Hart
P.S
Greywolf, we can arrange a "truthfull" reading where you can practice on your "poor ethics" at a later date.
Some time ago an almost identical question came up on another site I am a member of and the following was my answer there and I have seen no evidence in the meantime, to make me change my mind or alter my answer in any way.
The vast majority (probably around 90%) of so called Psychics, Rune & Tarot readers, etc., that I have come into contact with, while attending psychic, mind body & spirit, holistic fairs and Pagan conventions, are FRAUDSTERS. They can no more read the stones and cards or have psychic abilities, than can the table my computer is currently sitting on.
Granted, they are clever people, they are fantastic observers and generally brilliant psychologists. I have sat for hours at my stall watching and listening to hundreds of these charlatans.
When you observe them with a client (MUG), the first five minuits or so of the session are taken up with the Reader inspecting the customer closely from head to toe, (looking at hair root colour, style of clothing, neatness and cleanliness of dress etc.) and asking VERY carefully worded questions about life style, family etc. When the reading eventually starts the reader relays the information already gained, back to the client and the client then pays their £15 to £30 or so and goes away thinking how good and accurate that reader was and what a friendly man or woman they were. It never crosses their simple minds that they have been CONNED out of their hard earned cash.
In my opinion, if a person has genuine psychic ability, and if the Rune and Tarot card reading is as accurate as claimed, the reader should be able to give an extremely accurate reading without being able to see or needing to speak to the client.
The only modification to the above, is that instead of reading "the client then pays their £15 to £30 or so" it should now be "£15 - £75" this is due to a report I heard today 27/2/07 where a person told me that one of these charlatans at a seaside resort had started charging £75 for a crystal ball reading.
The vast majority (probably around 90%) of so called Psychics, Rune & Tarot readers, etc., that I have come into contact with, while attending psychic, mind body & spirit, holistic fairs and Pagan conventions, are FRAUDSTERS. They can no more read the stones and cards or have psychic abilities, than can the table my computer is currently sitting on.
Granted, they are clever people, they are fantastic observers and generally brilliant psychologists. I have sat for hours at my stall watching and listening to hundreds of these charlatans.
When you observe them with a client (MUG), the first five minuits or so of the session are taken up with the Reader inspecting the customer closely from head to toe, (looking at hair root colour, style of clothing, neatness and cleanliness of dress etc.) and asking VERY carefully worded questions about life style, family etc. When the reading eventually starts the reader relays the information already gained, back to the client and the client then pays their £15 to £30 or so and goes away thinking how good and accurate that reader was and what a friendly man or woman they were. It never crosses their simple minds that they have been CONNED out of their hard earned cash.
In my opinion, if a person has genuine psychic ability, and if the Rune and Tarot card reading is as accurate as claimed, the reader should be able to give an extremely accurate reading without being able to see or needing to speak to the client.
The only modification to the above, is that instead of reading "the client then pays their £15 to £30 or so" it should now be "£15 - £75" this is due to a report I heard today 27/2/07 where a person told me that one of these charlatans at a seaside resort had started charging £75 for a crystal ball reading.
QUOTE(pasher @ Feb 27 2007, 04:57 PM)
The only modification to the above, is that instead of reading "the client then pays their £15 to £30 or so" it should now be "£15 - £75" this is due to a report I heard today 27/2/07 where a person told me that one of these charlatans at a seaside resort had started charging £75 for a crystal ball reading.
Greetings
£75??? Well... I think I need to look at my choice of career again!
There's always the argument that if the person recieving the reading is happy, content, pleased and satisfied with the reading, that cost £75, all's well and good. HONEST!
(Walks away shaking head).
Blessed be
R.Hart
QUOTE(RamsHart @ Feb 27 2007, 06:10 PM)
QUOTE(pasher @ Feb 27 2007, 04:57 PM)
The only modification to the above, is that instead of reading "the client then pays their £15 to £30 or so" it should now be "£15 - £75" this is due to a report I heard today 27/2/07 where a person told me that one of these charlatans at a seaside resort had started charging £75 for a crystal ball reading.
Greetings
£75??? Well... I think I need to look at my choice of career again!
There's always the argument that if the person recieving the reading is happy, content, pleased and satisfied with the reading, that cost £75, all's well and good. HONEST!
(Walks away shaking head).
Blessed be
R.Hart
Me to I think Ramshart. Must get myself a tarot deck and a crystal ball at the weekend
and perhaps a "Kev" dressing gown so I'll look the part 
It will be a damn sight easier than carting a ton of secondhand books round the pagan events and a darn lot more profitable .
QUOTE(RamsHart @ Feb 27 2007, 05:52 AM)
QUOTE(fauna @ Feb 27 2007, 06:53 AM)
if you have to pay for it its not true... whats real and honest in life will only ever cost you time.. when people have been blessed with such gifts and expect fame or to be payed on top of being bestowed with such a wonderful gift they are either fakes or have very poor ethics... if they really value their gift they will know that the good they put out in helping people they will get back many times over
Greetings.
Is this refering to Paganboys origianal post or Greywolfs reply?
If the former does it mean if I gave a free tarot reading it will be true and I wouldn't be just "going through the motions"?
Does a free reading also mean I have good ethics apposed to "poor" ones?
Ye Gods, I think not!!!
I don't know the first thing about tarot reading, it's some thing I've never looked into. So I wouldn't even think about attempting a reading. If I did I can't see it being true and as for the ethics of a person who would attempt a reading without knowing what he/she was doing, well... lets not go there!
If it refers to Greywolfs reply...
Now I don't know Greywolf at all but I'm sure by reading his/her reply you can see he/she knows alot more about tarot than me and has gone to the trouble of explaining how he/she carries out a reading. The fact that he/she requests a small fee to cover such things as advertising should have no bearing on how good/truthfull a reader he/she is or his /her ethics.
Lets face it (this is a generalisation), if you go to "Mystic Megs" on Mabelthorpe front (or such like) you expect to pay for the service (more often than not it's alot). I can understand to an extent that someone might label these people as not giving truthfull readings, going through the motions and having "poor ethics".
I for one am quit sceptical about these people, but I would also be carefull about labeling them all. I wouldn't judge untill I had tried them out.
I wonder how many people who do visit such places really believe what their told and how many think of it as "abit of a laugh".
I know where I'd prefer to go.
As for a reply to Paganboy...
I agree with most of the other replys (baah). RE. If it feels right, trust your gut and all that.
If your actually asking how to find someone who you can trust to do a good/truthfull reading, I would say by word of mouth is probably the best bet.
Blessed be.
R.Hart
P.S
Greywolf, we can arrange a "truthfull" reading where you can practice on your "poor ethics" at a later date.
actually it was my point of view not a reply to anyone ...if you noticed i didnt quote anyone in my first post on this topic..and i remember saying something about people having the gift to be able to help others i didnt say everyone has that ability if you arent able to read tarot cards maybe you have a different gift... maybe you dont .. but either way one would hope that everyone is intellegent enough to have their point of view and realize nothing said on any site is the truth for everyone and is only... like my own words a point of view
QUOTE(fauna @ Feb 28 2007, 05:39 AM)
QUOTE(RamsHart @ Feb 27 2007, 05:52 AM)
QUOTE(fauna @ Feb 27 2007, 06:53 AM)
if you have to pay for it its not true... whats real and honest in life will only ever cost you time.. when people have been blessed with such gifts and expect fame or to be payed on top of being bestowed with such a wonderful gift they are either fakes or have very poor ethics... if they really value their gift they will know that the good they put out in helping people they will get back many times over
Greetings.
Is this refering to Paganboys origianal post or Greywolfs reply?
If the former does it mean if I gave a free tarot reading it will be true and I wouldn't be just "going through the motions"?
Does a free reading also mean I have good ethics apposed to "poor" ones?
Ye Gods, I think not!!!
I don't know the first thing about tarot reading, it's some thing I've never looked into. So I wouldn't even think about attempting a reading. If I did I can't see it being true and as for the ethics of a person who would attempt a reading without knowing what he/she was doing, well... lets not go there!
If it refers to Greywolfs reply...
Now I don't know Greywolf at all but I'm sure by reading his/her reply you can see he/she knows alot more about tarot than me and has gone to the trouble of explaining how he/she carries out a reading. The fact that he/she requests a small fee to cover such things as advertising should have no bearing on how good/truthfull a reader he/she is or his /her ethics.
Lets face it (this is a generalisation), if you go to "Mystic Megs" on Mabelthorpe front (or such like) you expect to pay for the service (more often than not it's alot). I can understand to an extent that someone might label these people as not giving truthfull readings, going through the motions and having "poor ethics".
I for one am quit sceptical about these people, but I would also be carefull about labeling them all. I wouldn't judge untill I had tried them out.
I wonder how many people who do visit such places really believe what their told and how many think of it as "abit of a laugh".
I know where I'd prefer to go.
As for a reply to Paganboy...
I agree with most of the other replys (baah). RE. If it feels right, trust your gut and all that.
If your actually asking how to find someone who you can trust to do a good/truthfull reading, I would say by word of mouth is probably the best bet.
Blessed be.
R.Hart
P.S
Greywolf, we can arrange a "truthfull" reading where you can practice on your "poor ethics" at a later date.
actually it was my point of view not a reply to anyone ...if you noticed i didnt quote anyone in my first post on this topic..and i remember saying something about people having the gift to be able to help others i didnt say everyone has that ability if you arent able to read tarot cards maybe you have a different gift... maybe you dont .. but either way one would hope that everyone is intellegent enough to have their point of view and realize nothing said on any site is the truth for everyone and is only... like my own words a point of view
Greetings Fauna,
Appologies If I offended,
this definatley was not meant,
your point of view is valid,
and made me want to comment.
Now that I have done so,
and a reply you've sent to me,
I ask for your forgivness
so friends that we may be.
Blessed be
RamsHart
QUOTE(fauna @ Feb 27 2007, 06:53 AM)
if you have to pay for it its not true... whats real and honest in life will only ever cost you time.. when people have been blessed with such gifts and expect fame or to be payed on top of being bestowed with such a wonderful gift they are either fakes or have very poor ethics... if they really value their gift they will know that the good they put out in helping people they will get back many times over
This seemes to be the opinion of many, and one that I find a bit strange. Sure, charging £75 for a reading is pretty rediculous, and even £40 is alot (though maybe not for a very long and in depth reading), but to say that ANYONE who EVER charges to give a reading is a bit of a generalisation. Yes it's a gift, but we don't expect a gifted painter to give away their paintings for free do we? Or a musician to play gigs every night for free, Or a talanted psychologist to see and help people everyday without getting any money at all. Yes, things should be free, but unfortunately we live in a capitalist society and people need to eat. Couldn't someone charging for readings simply mean that they love it and are dedicated enough to it that they want to spend all their time doing readings for people, and therefore need to find a way to do it and make enough money to live?
I've had a couple of readings in my life, one was £5 (student rates) and the other was £10.
QUOTE(Flaxen @ Feb 18 2007, 11:15 AM)
Having attended a spiritualist church on several occasions, I have seen some great mediums and some not so great. In the end you tend to go by personal recommendations, 'such and such is there next sunday, they are great etc .' Same sort of thing with tarot-I've had some fantastic readings and some bad ones! One of the worst was when I was on the Pier in Brighton with a friend and a 'gypsy' came out of her caravan and accosted me. She started to tell me that I had issues in my love life (what teenager doesn't!) and then proceeded to say:
'Your boyfriend has a 't' in his name'.
'no he doesn't.'
' He has a 's' in his name.'
'Er, no he doesn't!' etc. She was quite prepared to go through the whole alphabet!
Pretty obvious she didn't know what she was doing!
'Your boyfriend has a 't' in his name'.
'no he doesn't.'
' He has a 's' in his name.'
'Er, no he doesn't!' etc. She was quite prepared to go through the whole alphabet!
Pretty obvious she didn't know what she was doing!
Oh yes! Just love them Gypsies! More fun than mortifying Jehovas with my own brand of "Doomsday" tales from the crypt. The thing is to grab for their hand the moment they're foolish enough to approach. You then transfix them into your gaze with the old "look into my eyes..." stroking their palm, and if you're really good at it, you can relieve them of that draw-string bag they usually keep their scoff in!
Turnaround is fair game!
I have been studying the tarot for a long time. I think there are broadly speaking two types of reading.
First, the type which involves a kind of guessing game as to which interpretations from the cards fits the clients life. I don't do this kind of reading - its a waste of time and does nothing to help the client. The kind of client that wants this kind of reading is often more interested in/attracted to the general excitement of psychic ability rather than learning something about themselves (although not always). From my point of view this is exactly the wrong reason for wanting a tarot reading done.
The second type involves no guess work, no fancy layouts or prescribed meanings that take over the clients interpretation. Instead the client is encouraged to explore the meaning of these cards as they understand them (although sometimes I do refer to books if we seem to draw a blank - more often than not, however, this is done to explore possibilities rather than actually make absolute statements). When a reading is done in this way, it is very spiritual, involves alot of reflection and requires a fair degree of trust (after all the client may discuss some personal stuff).
Naturally, this kind of reading is not in the least bit 'psychic' but I also find it to be the least fraudulent (in my opinion) - because it is upto the client to declare/conceal whatever he/she wants, its usefulness is measured by the amount of insight it brings to the client (in some cases this is very little - as the client may not wish to explore themselves - usually this is a very short reading or even an incomplete one - or may be it never gets started).
Sorry if I've gone on too long, but tarot reading is something I feel strongly about
fizz
First, the type which involves a kind of guessing game as to which interpretations from the cards fits the clients life. I don't do this kind of reading - its a waste of time and does nothing to help the client. The kind of client that wants this kind of reading is often more interested in/attracted to the general excitement of psychic ability rather than learning something about themselves (although not always). From my point of view this is exactly the wrong reason for wanting a tarot reading done.
The second type involves no guess work, no fancy layouts or prescribed meanings that take over the clients interpretation. Instead the client is encouraged to explore the meaning of these cards as they understand them (although sometimes I do refer to books if we seem to draw a blank - more often than not, however, this is done to explore possibilities rather than actually make absolute statements). When a reading is done in this way, it is very spiritual, involves alot of reflection and requires a fair degree of trust (after all the client may discuss some personal stuff).
Naturally, this kind of reading is not in the least bit 'psychic' but I also find it to be the least fraudulent (in my opinion) - because it is upto the client to declare/conceal whatever he/she wants, its usefulness is measured by the amount of insight it brings to the client (in some cases this is very little - as the client may not wish to explore themselves - usually this is a very short reading or even an incomplete one - or may be it never gets started).
Sorry if I've gone on too long, but tarot reading is something I feel strongly about
fizz
I don't see that charging for a Tarot reading is wrong, or that a genuine reader will only do it for free or for a minimal fee. A good e-reading can take up to a couple of hours to write up, so I feel entirely justified in the charges I make. It is a long time learned skill, and I'm proud of it and I charge accordingly. I also found that when I did free readings years ago, as I was honing my craft, people enjoyed them, but often at the end they would say "well, that was great, now I'll go to a professional and get a proper reading", which I always found very odd!
I also found that when I did free readings years ago, as I was honing my craft, people enjoyed them, but often at the end they would say "well, that was great, now I'll go to a professional and get a proper reading", which I always found very odd!
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That's an attitude you can find in a lot of people nowadays, they think if it doesn't cost anything, it's not worth anything...
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I also found that when I did free readings years ago, as I was honing my craft, people enjoyed them, but often at the end they would say "well, that was great, now I'll go to a professional and get a proper reading", which I always found very odd!
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That's an attitude you can find in a lot of people nowadays, they think if it doesn't cost anything, it's not worth anything...
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too true - fizz
I also found that when I did free readings years ago, as I was honing my craft, people enjoyed them, but often at the end they would say "well, that was great, now I'll go to a professional and get a proper reading", which I always found very odd!
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That's an attitude you can find in a lot of people nowadays, they think if it doesn't cost anything, it's not worth anything...
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too true - fizz
My wife used to do tarot readings. Friends were free, but she'd charge £5 for anyone else. She often wondered if she should have charged more, but she didn't feel comfortable with charging more so she didn't.
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