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Sithis
I am new to witchcraft but really want to learn how to exact revenge on all those who have opposed me and made fun of me in the past, so im just wondering howi go about it, any help would be brilliant thank you
Pantheistkeith
As you say that you are new to witchcraft my advise to you is leave this alone.

Even the most experienced spell caster only resorts to this stuff when the
circumstances are extreme and with care.

There is always a price to be paid and I don't mean this in a fluffy three fold law sort of way either.

If I were you I would practise the other aspects of the Art before you should consider this sort of Magick.

Take it from me there is a real power behind this stuff and you must know what you are doing.
opalmoon
try at will sithis, you will bear the scars for life. there is no black and white and if you ask the question how to avenge you really dont know what it entails.
instead try the creed of revenge is living well it might do you more good in the long term.
CornishShaman
Sithis , you would be better off sticking your fist in their faces! Why?
1) you will know you did it
2) you will feel better for it
3) you will only pay a price, if they do get up and catch you
4) you will not risk your sanity

If you understand how things work you will know they will pay for any hurt they caused you, truth is they have probably already been hurt and thats why they picked on you in the first place!
If these people are no longer in your life, just leave it that way!
An example I was once asked to do something to stop someone from doing hurtful things to another, what sparked it was the murder of a pet cat, not nice! I agreed to do a Binding, the cats owner with the most hurt was involved in empowering the Binding. I just worked the Ritual, etc.
As a result the person was moved away from the area to a nicer one, I was attacked by 6 strangers in the street, whilst drunk and unable to defend myself (a real shame after all those years of Kung Fu training!), I was left with 2 broken ribs, a pandas face and a split lip! The People involved were never caught.
The person I did the binding for later realised they had made a mistake and that was the wrong person.
On the plus side I did get some Compensation for trying to help, but it was me that got the punishment! Not the person who got it wrong!

I hope that helps!
Pomona
QUOTE(Sithis @ Jun 7 2008, 01:14 AM)
I am new to witchcraft but really want to learn how to exact revenge on all those who have opposed me and made fun of me in the past, so im just wondering howi go about it, any help would be brilliant thank you
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May I be frank?

What you've described happening to you is life. Everyone has this happen to them. Talking about "revenge on all those who have opposed me" makes you sound a bit like some fictitious megolamaniac dictator - get over yourself. You're always going to have people who "oppose" you, as does just about everyone else on the planet, including the megolamaniac dictators. If all you're talking about are the myriad of ultimately petty and unimportant frictions, then join everyone else on the planet, including witches, who don't see it as a matter for witchcraft.

You said it's "in the past" so leave it there.

And, as has been said already, you're new to witchcraft: start with the small stuff and work up. The kind of thing you're talking about isn't for beginners.
Quasizoid
Aye, life is a challenge of wit and reason- and magic, like any other means is only as effective as the brain of the user. wink.gif
Xalle
QUOTE(Pomona @ Jun 7 2008, 08:27 AM)
QUOTE(Sithis @ Jun 7 2008, 01:14 AM)
I am new to witchcraft but really want to learn how to exact revenge on all those who have opposed me and made fun of me in the past, so im just wondering howi go about it, any help would be brilliant thank you
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May I be frank?

What you've described happening to you is life. Everyone has this happen to them. Talking about "revenge on all those who have opposed me" makes you sound a bit like some fictitious megolamaniac dictator - get over yourself. You're always going to have people who "oppose" you, as does just about everyone else on the planet, including the megolamaniac dictators. If all you're talking about are the myriad of ultimately petty and unimportant frictions, then join everyone else on the planet, including witches, who don't see it as a matter for witchcraft.

You said it's "in the past" so leave it there.

And, as has been said already, you're new to witchcraft: start with the small stuff and work up. The kind of thing you're talking about isn't for beginners.
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Nicely said P.
Sithis
Thank you all for your advice, I shall listen to your greater wisdom and leave it in the past where Pomona says it should be. I shall try the small stuff and try not to do to much. Thank you again
Eagledance
QUOTE(Sithis @ Jun 7 2008, 02:24 PM)
Thank you all for your advice, I shall listen to your greater wisdom and leave it in the past where Pomona says it should be.  I shall try the small stuff and try not to do to much. Thank you again
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Good decision - Pomona and others are wise and it is usually good to heed their advice. Vengeance is a dish best served cold apparenlty - not entirley sure \i know what that means!!

Ed smile.gif
Witchwood
QUOTE(Quasizoid @ Jun 7 2008, 10:14 AM)
Aye, life is a challenge of wit and reason- and magic, like any other means is only as effective as the brain of the user.  wink.gif
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Totally agree on this one tongue.gif
Sithis
QUOTE(Eagledance @ Jun 7 2008, 07:49 PM)
QUOTE(Sithis @ Jun 7 2008, 02:24 PM)
Thank you all for your advice, I shall listen to your greater wisdom and leave it in the past where Pomona says it should be.  I shall try the small stuff and try not to do to much. Thank you again
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Good decision - Pomona and others are wise and it is usually good to heed their advice. Vengeance is a dish best served cold apparenlty - not entirley sure \i know what that means!!

Ed smile.gif
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I dont understand that either.

I will stick with listening to nature i think
Athena
QUOTE(Sithis @ Jun 8 2008, 01:31 AM)
QUOTE(Eagledance @ Jun 7 2008, 07:49 PM)
QUOTE(Sithis @ Jun 7 2008, 02:24 PM)
Thank you all for your advice, I shall listen to your greater wisdom and leave it in the past where Pomona says it should be.  I shall try the small stuff and try not to do to much. Thank you again
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Good decision - Pomona and others are wise and it is usually good to heed their advice. Vengeance is a dish best served cold apparenlty - not entirley sure \i know what that means!!

Ed smile.gif
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I dont understand that either.

I will stick with listening to nature i think
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It means that it would be wise to take revenge (if at all later) when you have 'calmed' down and can think rationaly, as we tend not to do so when we are very angry. You may do something that you will deeply regret later, because your anger fuels your emotions .
Pantheistkeith


Ed smile.gif
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I will stick with listening to nature i think
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Just hope Nature doesnt turn round with it's tooth and claw on you then cause you have mucked up. wink.gif
Sithis
Ahh so its the old dont fight with anger I get you.

I hope nature doesnt do that to me
Ethereal
Beyond the idea of waiting for your anger to just cool down, in magic it is even more vital that you dont work when in this mindset. You will chaqnnel the energy of your anger into your working, this is not taboo by any means, but Gods you need to be sure you know what youre doing if that is the case...
elswyth
You know what, Xalle?

I'm sick of getting very excited everytime you post and thinking that Titus Pullo had joined tongue.gif
Pomona
How'd you think I feel Els - I'm meeting Xalle for the first time next week and I'm going to be very disappointed if Titus Pullo doesn't show up... ohmy.gif

laugh.gif Only kidding Xalle hon o_kiss.gif laugh.gif

(Mind you, she's probably expecting to meet a very crabby bird with a pointy nose - er, beak... Hmmm... laugh.gif )
elswyth
That Titus Pullo is a right dishy bugger isnt he?

Can't believe I left my rome series back in England sad.gif

Mind you I'm still living in a tent so its a moot point anyway LOL!


Anyway Im being nosy Pomona but is Xalle coming over the Scotland to get her tattoo so soon? Or are you guys meeting up to have fun and frolics?
Pomona
Will PM! smile.gif
Xalle
QUOTE(elswyth @ Jun 12 2008, 01:51 PM)
You know what, Xalle?

I'm sick of getting very excited everytime you post and thinking that Titus Pullo had joined tongue.gif
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Hur hur biggrin.gif

Im trying to invoke him by wishful thinking, join me and we might be able to manage it... actually, if Pomona gets involved too we got three "witches" and we're bound to be able to achive something! We can share him.... I know we all have OH's but Im sure that they wouldnt mind too much... unsure.gif
Freebird
Excuse me ladies.....

Topic? Stick to it?

o_baeh.gif

(Sorry, couldn't resist that wink.gif)
jape
QUOTE(Freebird @ Jun 13 2008, 08:38 AM)
Excuse me ladies.....Topic? Stick to it?
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i'm not saying anything! Laughed, choked, coughed, got half-chewed nougat all over me LCD screen and keyboard. Instant karma.

Which said, sticking to topic, Sithis, you should listen to them (not the bit where they are conjuring some poor sod into their presence, the bit where they advise you). Even I listen to these women, at my peril if I don't.

It is easy to say, 'listen to nature' and so on when your own nature is telling you to hex the balls off some dickhead gave you a hard time once - you must listen to taht in yourself but think further - the wisdom behind it is deep. Animals and creatures hardly ever have the time or inclination for revenge, they just survive and go on to grow, breed, teach etc. That is part of the lesson, live now, live it well and learn and you will become such that few, even the jealous will bother you. That is natural too.

It isn't the muscles or the power to hex that works, although I have used both at times when apt and required and immediate. What works is being yourself to the point that the slights and even injustices are remote from you. 'One with magick' is the goal and being of a witch if such you want to be. And that often brings purpose beyond yourself. Never easy and hardly ever rewarding the ego, the reward is knowledge and participation in the extraordinary.

Don't think you are being foolish posting or we are being patronising if we older and confident residents always seem to instruct you in higher purpose! It isn't just our wish to show off. Most of us are bearing physical and emotional scars we got from not having the benefit of forums, peer groups and elders in our time and although some hands on experience and even mistakes can be very important in learning, no reason why you shouldn't gain and benefit from ours eh?
Pomona
QUOTE(Freebird @ Jun 13 2008, 08:38 AM)
Excuse me ladies.....

Topic? Stick to it?

o_baeh.gif

(Sorry, couldn't resist that wink.gif)
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Whoops!

*hangs head*

Sorry Free! o_embarrased.gif
Sithis
QUOTE(Pomona @ Jun 13 2008, 09:30 AM)
QUOTE(Freebird @ Jun 13 2008, 08:38 AM)
Excuse me ladies.....

Topic? Stick to it?

o_baeh.gif

(Sorry, couldn't resist that wink.gif)
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Whoops!

*hangs head*

Sorry Free! o_embarrased.gif
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Sorry Free its my thread.

Jape you always give me amazing advice, you should have your own help section on on this forum
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