Just been chatting to my boyfriend about gods deity archetypes and universal higher consienceness.I was just wandering what others thoughts were.


my idea is that there is the universe who is its self a god but one that is just energy, and all representations of life and the living are conected and are part of this universal conection and the god as we descover them and know them are are representations of this universe and our own godlike self within us. sounds complicated i know, basicaly i belive that everything is deitie in some way or form. and all are conected to the first god or conscienceness.

wat do others belived if they belive in any form universal unity? if they do where do they put the abrehamic monotheistic gods and prophets in to this unity?

what do others think?

A universal divine energy of which all other gods etc. are but reflections or manifestations? Personally I don't believe in there being some giant divine being (of whatever ilk) that is (or is not) the universe. I believe that the gods are individual entities in their own right. The Abrahamic god was originally just part of a pantheon (Yahweh was the son the El - the Bull of Heaven) but due to various political reasons the others where abandoned.

However (because there's always an however!!) there are connections - on the macro scale there is the Cosmic Web that links all the galaxies. At the other end of the spectrum there is the quantum links between all things - part of entanglement (a bizarre thing) - which are all forms of energy. As a heathen the quantum entanglement ties in nicely with the concept of Wyrd.

So yes in one way everything is part of everything else - bound by the complex quantum laws that govern everything. I just don't think it's divine or self-aware or anything like that. Just energy - needing no worship or religious titles.

warlock

I would recommend that you look up Spinoza (if I remember rightly he was exiled and cursed for his ideas,) and monism.

I do, in the form of divine immanence.



I put them (the gods) in the same category as any other deity. The prophets I put somewhere else



What I think is unimportant. My question to you would be: what led you to form your own conclusions?

Caerthan

OK, I'll bite

Why Spinoza? Why monism?

Caerthan

Try here as your definition sounds very much like the 'First Cause' espoused by Catholicism:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06612a.htm#IB

Marto

to be really honest its not a set conclusion because im confused and open to new opinions. My conclusion as it stands today came from a book im reading called chakra therapy and talks of things in the way i described ( sort off!) also it comes from my influence in hindu mysticism.

I like to concider my ideas polytheistic as well as animistic but im just doing my usual questioning and reevaluating things again. and i was just wandering if any pagans had a place for the abrahamic deities in there divine thinking and pantheon of gods

Or maybe the Kaballah. If memory serves, Dion Fortune's book is a good starting point. The Mystical Kaballah, I think it was called. Your ideas put me in mind of the way it explained the hierarchy of energy, and the interaction of force and form which is both creation - not a static process, but a continuing one - and magic.

Your definition is very similar to what I believe, Warlok (and I've been trying to put it into words for sometime so cheers for doing so). That idea is basically how I square my knowledge of physics with my spiritual side (don't get me started on the spiritual application of quantum theory though).
Personally I reckon that all the different deities and aspects of The Great Whatever (my name for the universal divine) are formulated from our own experience of that (was reading another topic just now about 'did the god(desse)s already exist before the universe began or do we create them'), so which deity/ies someone believes in/ worships depends a lot on their culture.
I've yet to figure out how this fits with the concept of spiritual beings that reside in particular locations though - something I've also experienced so don't doubt their existence.