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Man 'o the Fens
Merry Meet all..

unsure.gif I need your help/advice (I'm a novice practitioner).. My GF and I have some negative influences from the past and hers in particular are dragging her down somewhat.

I want to perform a ritual that will banish these negative influences and was thinking of getting her to write them down on paper which we'd then say a few words over before casting them into the Thames.

I have a particular affinity with the moon and with the presence of so much powerful water I think we would stand a good chance of making a difference. I was wondering if anyone knew of any incantations that would be suitable?

Any help gratefully received!
Gawain
Do these things need banishing or just letting go?
Man 'o the Fens
I think really they need banishing - she's had quite a while (before I knew her) to try and let go and they're still lurking..
Thinair
Blah, sorry - this requires an in-depth response and I shall get back to you but have someone crashing the night and they've just arrived so soon x
Thinair
Okay, got five minutes –

What you described: Thames, writing – all good stuff. Water is excellent for removing things. One of mine is to send things into stones and drop them in fast flowing water – or stand in fast flowing water. I’d suggest doing it on the full moon so that after that it’s waning – taking it away.

If the issues are to do with sexual abuse (which is often the case with very bad things we can’t let go) then that’s a different matter and there are more specific but long-term rituals for that one. You need a whole battle plan rather than a simple banishing smile.gif

It very much depends how strong these things are. The above banishing is worth a shot and between two of you may well be stronger than if she did it alone. It may well work – give it a go.

If not, get back to us, there’s plenty I could suggest but always play out your gut instincts (water, moonlight, writing) first – often spells tell you what you need to do. Be happy if it works, don’t worry if it doesn’t – magic can sometimes be a process of elimination smile.gif
elswyth
Now don't laugh but I always found that writing it out on toilet paper, wiping myself with it and flushing it was a good way...if nothing else it's therapeutic!!!
Man 'o the Fens
@thinair - many thanks for that! Without going into details it's really just normal "baggage" that one accumulates over past relationships, but my GF is the anxious type so anything that I'd normally be able to brush off would play on her mind for a long while, hence the need for this ritual. We'e going to try the writing down approach first but maybe without the standing-in-the-water bit as the Thames is fast-flowing and flippin' cold at this time of year biggrin.gif

@elswyth - hehehehehe.. I'd heard that one as well - I might give it a try if my proposed solution doesn't work first time around. I'd have to make sure it was that really tough, unfriendly bog roll though....

So, based on my other research I'm proposing to mix a blend of herbs and essential oils that are favourable to Undines, and ask the Gods of Water to make sure the Undines carry the "messages" away. I'll also have a little wine and a small chalice to thank them afterwards. Should be interesting.

Many thanks for all your help!




Thinair
Els - fookin' excellent idea m'dear! Liking it smile.gif

Practical magic.
Thinair
That's liking...not licking...be clear here.
elswyth
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Oh now that's a bit rotten.com madam!
Thinair
Oh how I so wish I hadn't just seen that mellow.gif

*barfs in a bag*

Man 'o the Fens
Especially not at this time of the morning! Just had my breakfast o_bolt.gif
elswyth
That disgusting site has been going for over 10 years! I remember people discovering it at college and grossing out over it.
Man 'o the Fens
I'm hoping never to appear in it smile.gif
elswyth
Well just try to avoid being filmed defacating on Japanese schoolgirls in a bathtub and I'm sure you will manage to avoid that experience.
Moonhunter
I use a variant of Elswyth's suggestion.

If you can, write everything on rice paper. Then pee on it (you said you have an affinity with water!) and flush it.

Alternatively, write everything on normal paper and burn it. Fire is very satisfying.
Julai
Something your girlfriend might like to try for herself: emotional freedom technique. It's really just a ritual behaviour to give emotional strength: you recite affirmations while performing certain physical movements. There's a website that offers a free introductory download.

http://www.emofree.com/
Man 'o the Fens
QUOTE(elswyth @ Oct 4 2008, 01:54 PM)
Well just try to avoid being filmed defacating on Japanese schoolgirls in a bathtub and I'm sure you will manage to avoid that experience.
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hahahaha.. I was more worried about appearing "hacked and burned" - they have some real eye-openers there right now!

Your advice is good though and I'll definitely remember it for the future wink.gif
Man 'o the Fens
QUOTE(Moonhunter @ Oct 4 2008, 06:11 PM)
I use a variant of Elswyth's suggestion.

If you can, write everything on rice paper. Then pee on it (you said you have an affinity with water!) and flush it.

Alternatively, write everything on normal paper and burn it. Fire is very satisfying.
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Hmmm.. this is going to be interesting - we went to Battersea Park at the weekend as a potential location: I wonder if the trendies are ready for that kind of action? It wouldn't stand up in court I don't think.. LOL..

Actually though, rice paper's tasty so I guess I could always eat it!
badgersmoon
QUOTE(Man 'o the Fens @ Oct 7 2008, 06:42 PM)


Actually though, rice paper's tasty so I guess I could always eat it!
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But not, I suggest, after peeing on it? I know some people drink their own for various reasons butthe idea here is to banish things, not re-ingest them.... ph34r.gif
BM
xx
Aronwy
Hello,
This has always been one of my bone of contentions I guess. What exactly do people mean by 'banishing negativity', I see that term banded about a lot and where exactly are you banishing it to??

If this should be a different thread then feel free to move it or I will start another one, but I personally dont get the whole banishing negativity thing...my workings are very specific and I don't banish anything without being very clear about where it is going huh.gif
Man 'o the Fens
QUOTE(Aronwy @ Oct 7 2008, 10:03 PM)
Hello,
This has always been one of my bone of contentions I guess.  What exactly do people mean by 'banishing negativity', I see that term banded about a lot and where exactly are you banishing it to??

If this should be a different thread then feel free to move it or I will start another one, but I personally dont get the whole banishing negativity thing...my workings are very specific and I don't banish anything without being very clear about where it is going  huh.gif
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Hello Aronwy,

Interesting question.. My (our) primary objective is to get rid of bad Kharma - i'm not actually sure if this can be done, or whether we'd have to build up more good Kharma to counteract and overcome the bad stuff. If that's the case then this is probably off-topic and maybe the mods could move this thread somewhere else, although I'm not sure where.

Yeah, thinking about it, is it possible to entirely destroy/banish energy, or does it just get moved somewhere else?

Julai
Surely what you really need to do is change the emotional response to the memory of certain events. Magic is one way of tackling it, though I'm not convinced that a one-off ritual act would be sufficient on its own.

Bad things happen to someone: the pain gets embedded in their psyche: every time something reminds them, the pain re-surfaces. The reaction will always be the same unless the pain is processed in the memory. You can go over an event from a different angle - imagine it's not you who's suffering, putting yourself at a distance from it. You can change your mindset by constantly telling yourself you are strong, blameless, worthy, precious - the opposite of whatever the bad experiences convinced you you were. Or if it's you wanting to do something for your partner, you constantly tell them they are these things until they believe it. And then as a final act, to seal the change, you do the ritual destroying.

We as individuals have huge emotional power over those closest to us. Has anyone read Dion Fortune's book, 'Psychic self defence'? In it she describes how a mentor nearly destroys her psychically through constant negativity. The opposite can also be done: rebuilding someone by constant reassurance and support.
Thinair
What Julai said.
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