I am looking for help as to weight loss.
Is there a ritual or spell i could use to aid my weight loss.
One that helps me feel confident in what i am doing or stops me eating all the wrong things.

I know how to diet and exercise but the problem is why dont i do it ? I know it will be good for me in the long run.

oops rambled on there a bit sorry.

Oh sweetie, if only there was!

Getting to grips with why we don't do the things that we know we should do is a bigger thing than most spells can achieve and takes a lot of personal work.

Best thing I suggest is that you nip down to the opt-in forums and join Ever Decreasing Pagans for a little support and advice.

I replied to this on your blog Amanfred.

If there were we'd all be rich luv.

One, rather unconventional approach, which works on most addictions (alcohol, tobacco etc) is to get in everything you really like and absolutely stuff yourself to the point where you're sick.

'Expelling the evil spirit', as it were. Then take that marker point as the 'fresh start'.

Often it's part of the daily grind that we just live alongside our addictions. A magical approach to that is to bring about the personification of the addiction, or the emotion, or the <insert whatever> so that you are dealing with an actual entity. This isn't always easy though and can lead to psychological nutterism that gets your friends and family nudging each other and whispering when you leave the room

A proper binge-out that ends in decisive expulsion of the gunk and a cold shower is a good marker. We've (most of us) done it with drink, I've done it with fags - induced illness is actually a shamanic technique - I'm not saying 'become bulimic'. I'm saying bring the issue to the forefront of your psyche and hten...well, sick it up

The other one is to get a copy of Beginners Guide to Fasting, book a week off work and do a full-on internal retreat involving a three day controlled fast.

Another marker point. After which your stomach will prefer smaller quantities of food and you've again given yourself a decisive marker from whence to begin a 'fresh start'.

If you return to binging, doesn't matter - do it again. Repetition is fine. It's not punishment, it's spiritualising the physical.

If neither of those appeal, yes - there are rituals you can do to bring about the personification of - well, anything you want really. But it's recommended you have space, Deaf neighbours and holiday owing

If you want to tackle something like this on a magical basis you're looking at setting down a full-on plan for yourself: a course that may last months, maybe years. Is that any harder than how you've been approaching it the past few years? Probably not all totalled up, but it may challenge you and warp your identity a little lol Which is often a good thing - if you don't like who you are at the moment.

You don't do it because you don't want to do it. Usually because:

1) It's comforting to eat
2) You crave the types of food because they taste good and release the happy hormones
3) Food it your 'friend'
4) You don't have anyone you want to do it for
5) You don't actually believe it's possible
6) You're actually happier with the way you are than the way you feel when you're dieting

Any number of reasons. But it's not an easy thing to do even if you want to - so doing it when you don't want to (but because you feel you have to) is near impossible. Why not just give up and be yourself to be honest? Maybe it is more pleasurable to go from a fried breakfast coronary than to live a long, diet-ridden life?

Anyhoo, you call that a ramble? Fuck woman, it's hardly five lines. You seen what some of us lot waffle on about?

By the way - that revulsion you feel at the thought of eating yourself sick is a very powerful tool. It's a spiritual tool which you can call up at any time during your battle with over-eating; it's the tool that gives us our limits.

I once read in here somewhere, that someone used knot magic to aid weight loss. Knot not tried it myself and probably wouldn't.

But having just read Tas's comment in your blog, I would go with her advice.

Well, I think it's about brainwashing. Which may or may not be classed as a magical technique. Every time you have a meal, you say to yourself, 'Whoah, that's a lot! I can't eat all that!' You end up convincing yourself that it's too much for you, and you eat some, but never all. If you could convince yourself you'd had a stomach staple and you'd be sick if you ate more than a little bit at a sitting, you'd be well on the way.

As Thinair suggests, there are various obstacles in the way of changing one's mindset. I think we shouldn't forget sheer inertia. It takes a lot of extra effort to change your whole belief system about how much food you need. It's not necessarily about needing food for comfort, either - it can be simply that you give it a try and nothing much seems to be happening and so you lapse back to the old routine.

My suggestion is a ritual during which you declare that you have had a psychic stomach staple and can no longer eat large amounts at a time. You ceremonially throw out your normal dinner plate and give yourself a special, smaller plate. You change your eating routine in some way that gives your subconscious the message.

Like it. Can you get that on the NHS?

Listen to this woman, she is wise! (I mean it *serious face*)

coeeee ,fancy seeing you here i tried to say hello on your intro post but its closed so couldnt, cant help with the weight loss but if you find anything let me know cos i am in the same boat,im beginning to think i should just accept myself the way i am and at least i will get to enjoy life

Hi morbida. yep its me.

good to `see`you.

thankyou all for your suggestions.

i have already tried the do it till your sick method with drink, this last weekend but it wasnt intentional. sisters birthday and my sons friends feeding me shots, goodness knows whats in them!

I have never tried it with food, so maybe thats the way to go?

throwing out my dinner plate is an idea but as its the eating between meals thats more of a problem, nearly just went and fetched a bag of crisps.lol. i will have to ritually throw out a feelling that i am missing out on something if i am not nibbling.

I once read a book by the `barefoot doctor` about doing a retreat. i cant remember what it was called at the moment. it said to say thankyou to all the people who have helped put the meal in front of you on your plate, from the farmers, packers, drivers, shop assistants. as well as the animal and plants that is your meal.
just to think about what you are eating must be good as i often find myself eating or have eaten something and have no recognition of why I am doing it. other than through habit.

I am now going to print out your suggstions and pin then up in the kitchen as a reminder.
off to find the other forum.

thanks again
and yes this is a bit more of a rambling post.lol.

I will ask as i work for my local gps.lol.

nice to "see" you too,i wouldnt waste your time with the NHS they are tight buggers,when i had my last Csection i tried to get the surgeon to do a quick tummy tuck before he sewed me up and he wouldnt do it,tight git said i had to pay for things like that,i just thought you know " while your there" but he was having none of it

you would have thought,` why not as shes here.`
have been good so far today and have been to the gym, worse to come as i am going for a swim when i finish work. lol i wont be able to move tomorrow.

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My suggestion is a ritual during which you declare that you have had a psychic stomach staple and can no longer eat large amounts at a time. You ceremonially throw out your normal dinner plate and give yourself a special, smaller plate. You change your eating routine in some way that gives your subconscious the message.

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I think this is just what i need, all i have to do now is find the time to do it. Thursday is a possibility ?

Might give that a go myself, although I don't actually eat that much as it is. This is the one thing that I have always consistently failed at. Since I was eleven I've been trying to lose weight, but never with any real success. I used to be known, back in the day, for being scarily determined and getting whatever I went after. I never could manage this, though, and that knowledge gradually eaten away at my ability to achieve other things, to the point where I seem unable to achieve anything at all anymore.

maybe we should all mosy on down to the Ever Decrasing Pagans group then and see if we can rustle up some motivation,the idea of getting a smaller dinner plate will prorbably work quite well,you can buy those special diet paltes that have sections on them for each type of food you are supposed to eat ,i have heard they wrok really well

I had a very frustrating day the other day, .. 15, 000 dollars of medicine, literally poured down the sink, bc my body couldn't take it...

I was too numb, I can't cry, i went and got KFC.. ate 5 pieces, in one night, tho not at the same time


One of the best ways, I've heard is to Journal and write your feelings, the people I've read and talked to, this has seemed to help them the most.
The first month, just eat regular, tho try not to drink pop..

Coke a cola is my bain!! I mean, i get mean w/o my coke!!! lol
thats one of the hardest things for me.. and obviously i'm an emotional, stuffer eater..

I do like the cosmic staple, lol
maybe i can work on visualizing that and use the smaller plates, is always a good idea..

Its hard, really hard, esp when you can't exercise.. and thats my biggest obstacle.. bc of the RA stuff i have..

I think its about how motivated one can get and learning to like healthy foods and slowly introducing them... like eating yougurt and oatmeal and some honey and an apple (soak a bit of oatmeal in water, overnight, not filled, jjust a tiny bit of water) add above in the morning!