Hello all,

I recently became Reiki attuned and have seen many topics on using crystal healing in conjunction with Reiki.

I would like to learn more about this, such as what crystals work effectively at clearing which chakras but I am unsure where to look for information.

I have searched on the Internet but there are wide variations of opinion so I thought I'd post here to find your personal views and experiences on this topic.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks all

I think this is one for Shakala!

Or give Jofreyja a PM, she's a reiki practitioner and she uses crystals too.

Definitely

Thanks guys, I have sent PM's as suggested. Any help is greatly appreciated.

It depends on the person, their needs and problems. Its best to intuitivly pick the crystals however a good hard and fast easy way to start is to use a crystal that corresponds with the chakra colour.
I've found holding/meditating on them or placing them on the chakra and meditating on it has had fantastic results and I've also learnt a massive amount while doing it.
Adding Reiki I just meditate while channeling the energy and have your hands to either side of the chakra with the crystals over it or sometimes to either side of the body. Them going thump and rolling about is very distracting. Espicially if they are heavy (I've dropped my Schalenblend and the thump had people running thinking i'd broken something).
If you are treating someone on a couch then you could set them under it. Just don't stand on them for obvious reasons, it can really hurt and disrupt your mindset.

The 'typical' chakra crystals are
Base-
Garnet or Haematite-although I sometimes find it is too grounding but thats just me

Sacral-
Calcite/carnelian

Solar Plexus
Tiger's eye, Citrine (although most on the market for cheap is commonly heat treated amethyst)

Heart
Rose Quartz or Aventurine,

Throat
Blue Lace Agate, Sodalite or Blue Quartz,

Third eye
Amethyst, Blue Topaz, Blue

Crown
Amethyst/Clear Quartz although I'd also use natural Citrine or Apophyllite also

Clear Quartz can stand in for any Chakra or energy point.

Can someone tell me what crystals have to do with the principles of Kundalini yoga? Or 'Reiki'?

*is confused*

Thanks,

Marto

I'm about as far from being an expert as is possible to get but 'chakras' is yes, a term harvested from Kundalini which people have found suffices well to describe a similar arrangement of areas within the body that energy centres on when performing reiki. Rather than waste time trying to find a way to describe them in an original way, they employ the shorthand of describing them as chakras.

There is also a school of thought which believes that certain minerals act as an aid to the movement of energy around the body, possibly connected to their frequency of vibration. Therefore some reiki practioners employ crystals as part of the treatments they perform

Or so it appears to me, anyway.

Thanks for that! O.K., I checked out 'Reiki Central' and learned a few things.


It comes from God:

++The word Reiki is made of two Japanese words - Rei which means "God's Wisdom or the Higher Power" and Ki which is "life force energy". So Reiki is actually "spiritually guided life force energy." ++

++Remember, at the core of most religious and spiritual practice is the belief that the Supreme Being has given each person free will. This means that the ability to exercise free will is a God given right, and the sacred expression of each person's soul! If we are to honor this, then we must respect the choice each person has made concerning which religion or spiritual path they are a part of. Then, by looking for the similarities, and focusing on them, it will be easy to cooperate with all others, and work together to create a better planet.++

It can apparently do lots of very serious things:

++A. Reiki has had a positive affect on all forms of illness and negative conditions. This includes minor things like head or stomach aches, bee stings, colds, flu, tension and anxiety as well as serious illness like heart disease, cancer, leukemia, etc. The side effects of regular medical treatments have also been reduced or eliminated. This includes the negative effects of chemotherapy, post operative pain and depression as well as improving the healing rate and reducing the time needed to stay in the hospital. ++

It can also heal the world:

++Yes, this is one of the wonderful benefits of Reiki and is why it is such a wonderful technique for the new millennium. It allows individuals and groups to do something positive about the challenging situations we see on the news involving so many people all over the planet. Reiki can be used to reduce suffering and help people any where in the world. On our Reiki web site at www.reiki.org we list major world events to send Reiki to. As more and more people send Reiki to help the world heal, we will move quickly to a world of peace and harmony.++

Further to this, there are apparently 'Reiki' symbols that have been put at the North and South pole:

http://www.reiki.org/globalhealing/northandsouthp.html

( funny, The South Pole is a heavily monitored research area, I've never heard of this even from (and it's only two, to be sure) people who have researched there)

So, Chakras. From Esk's post, and from looking around, it's true I can find no connection to Kundalini yoga. So I'm at sea about what people are on about.

Crystals. Well, it's true that quartz crystals can be used ( but ONLY if cut into certain shapes and combined with either an electric charge ( the quartz will return to it's normal frequency after the charge is removed) to generate piezoelectricity ( but only under certain conditions. Also, I can not find anything on the use of crystals in the original works of Dr. Usui but perhaps I missed it).

So, what I can come up with are a number of very disparate ideas.

Very interesting. Anyone care to put them together for me? It's not based on actual 'Charkras', the crystals have to conform to very specific standards and Reiki, well , I can't claim I understand it and I do admit a bias as I don't believe in God.

Thanks for any help. As this is very popular ( and VERY expensive), I wonder if people would be so kind as give examples? Like, cure any cancer patients or effect some part of the globe , say, Darfur ? Although it says at Reiki central people's beliefs can be diverse, the belief in God seems to be a mainstay. I'm NOT being snarky, I'm just trying to put it together. I can't reconcile nor piece together the 'bits' .

Marto

That's interesting. I've met Reiki practitioners within paganism, but not elsewhere. I presume they discard the 'god' thing, or else use their own gods.

I admit to being profoundly wary of Reiki. I realise it's purpose (or the only one I'm aware of) is for healing, and, as a tool for that purpose, it seems to work for many people - both practitioners and those who go to them for healing. What I don't like is what I've heard about practitioners placing Reiki symbols elsewhere than in their own houses. If Reiki has the power that's claimed, then that's tantamount to placing spells in community areas, or other people's property. It may be claimed it's in order to facilitate world healing, but I'm with a slightly paranoid person I knew who claimed Reiki was actually an alien virus designed to take over the world. Until proved otherwise, anyway.



As Esk says/implies, many people use the concept of the chakras when working with healing. A friend of mine - a very competent masseuse - does so, to great effect. She uses them to discern what might be termed 'blockages'. For her, using the concept helps locate, in sensual terms (touch and sight, for her), a 'problem'. Because the chakras have differing purposes assigned to them, as well as differing colours, what she sees and feels is something at a place on a person's body, or a colour. What she looks or feels like translates, for her, into something rough, or smooth, or blocked etc. She talks that through with the person she is massaging to see if her diagnosis is accurate. Of course, she doesn't know why the effect is there i.e. what has caused it, nor how to change it, nor why she sees or feels what she does - all she reports is what she sees or feels. And, as I say, that's a tool that works for her. I don't know how she arrived at it.



Can't help. No doubt you're fairly well aware of theories of the uses of crystals within the pagan community? I very rarely use them, myself, but I'm not willing to totally dismiss them as I think anything can be used as a symbol, and symbols help one to focus. So anything can be used as a tool. But I suspect that both crystals and chakras have been imported into original Reiki concepts by people using them in other contexts, and they've caught on in popularity.

Alot of the ones I know just say it comes from Source-all that is kind of thing.




Think of the symbols as being like Runes, they bring in a certain energy into a place or amplify what is there. Others release energy with the emphasis on negative energy or energy that holds you back. Reiki like the symbols just channels energy to you so your body can use it to heal with mentally, physically or spiritually, like charging your batteries a bit to help you work through something.

I don't go to others for Reiki and although I am a Reiki Master/Teacher I don't hold many others attuned to it in high esteem, it WAS a sacred system, but many people see it as a get rich quick scheme. When attuned you open yourself up to be able to channel energy and some people don't work with it before racing up to the teacher level (more money) so they can't deal with any of the problems that arise when they balls up and do it wrong. Sadly I've seen it done twice and really can destroy people's energy system cos they weren't ready for it and the unscruptulous bastards didn't care. It was all money money money.

I've seen some teachers who don't teach or advocate protecting themselves when doing it. Your letting energy through you, stuff can be picked up at the same time and its not necessarily good for you.

Its a form of channeling energy so it can be distantly sent (if you know how-2nd attunement). Tho why they'd want to send it there is a mystery, suppose there are invasive buggers everywhere. At least its damn invasive IMHO if the person or wights living there don't ask for it.

Another thing is, its not all good, its energy like magic is, it can be used amplify psychic attack.



Reiki is a Japanese system so yes it has been imported. From what my Reiki master told me people found that they were putting their hands on several places and someone realised that these were Chakra points. That was backed up with her personal experience (saying that for posterity, she could really be full of it).

Crystals are seperate from Reiki but some people add them in.

We are all energy, we can channel energy into crystals and amplify their energy which can be directed for use. Try meditating on one for a while.

Thanks all for your responses, they are greatly appreciated.

I don't believe in God and never have so I don't believe Reiki comes from him (though I do know several who do).

I don't profess to know where Reiki comes from, all I do know is that it has had a profound effect on my life and the lives of others. I have used it to help ease a cancer patient who was struggling with their treatment. I've also used it for a variety of other cases.

Gryphon, I know exactly what you mean about people charging ridiculous amounts of money for it, many come out with the response 'It is traditional and causes people to value it more as they don't appreciate something they got for free'

While that statement may or may not have some merit I don't think that gives them the excuse to charge the amounts that they do. As a result I too have doubts about some of the practitioners especially when their adverts for their services include a statement such as "Would you like to earn in excess of £20,000 a year?"

Those are the practitioners I disagree with. I chose to walk down the Reiki path because I have a deep interest in holistics and would like to share that gift with others. It has had a very positive effect on me and if I can share that with just one other person then I believe it will be worth it.

Hope this clears up some of the speculation.

Sorry to be so negative about it in many ways. I do tend to stress the negative because from what I have seen many people do not realise that what I have described does happen, that it is falable and just because someone practices it, does not mean they know everything. Or fix everything. There are callous unscruptulious buggers in all walks of life. As shown my the



I was stunned to see that.


It is a good healing ability for many people and a great comfort. As I said i am a Master/Teacher myself. I wouldn't have gone that far if I thought it was a waste of time.

There is no reason if you look around, find someone who feels right, who listens, understands, supports you and is willing to take things at the right pace that you shouldn't have a wonderful attunement and a wonderful new skill to learn with.

Read up on it. William Rand is one of the top authorities in the world on Western Reiki (the Usui foundation could still be considered closed to the West).

I can only speak from personal experience both regarding Reiki and crystals as I do use both. To me Reiki is simply an energy system that can be used for healing. I have been attuned to Reiki for sometime now and am a Reiki master/teacher, and unlike some teachers for any attunements I give I don't charge, and I never came into Reiki to make money off other peoples illnesses. For myself Reiki has changed my life, and for me it does work. And I do agree that neither the use of crystals or chakras had anything to do with the original system of Reiki, but systems change and evolve. However I do use crystals along side Reiki, infact I channel Reiki into crystals, in my case a crystal covered pyramid, and for me at least this DOES work, and I have had some very positive feedback. Another thing unless you have experienced a Reiki session, or been attuned to Reiki I don't think that you appreciate the difference that Reiki can make, and you don't have to follow any particular belief system to be become attuned to Reiki. Now as to crystals, they are not as some people thing something belonging to new agers. Crystals have been around for 1000's of years, used not only for healing but in magick, and in modern times used for all sorts of things, in fact without crystals you wouldn't be reading this now, as crystals run your computer. One final thing one of the best books written on crystals is called - The Curious Lore of Precious Stone - written by GF Kunz almost a 100 years ago, and he was gemologist to Tiffany's

Hiya, I've just started my training for Level 2 in Reiki, but I've not been shown anything about crystals, as my Master doesn't have an affinity with them. I've used crystals on myself for years and have found them really beneficial, so I would like to know more about their use in conjunction with Reiki or similar therapies. Can you recommend any books, other than the ones already mentioned, please? Many Thanks, in advance, Lainee x

Whoa! I've been looking at Reiki sites and all I can say is " License to print money". I seriously think that those who use it and feel it is a legitimate treatment should get together and try to clean house. Even the 'Reiki Association' of the U.K. ( I don't know how representational they are) require 5 Pounds for a list of registered 'Masters'. One can check with business bureaus to check for legit. businesses of other kinds for free!

I did find that I can become a 'Master' without leaving home AND get a certificate that I am competent without ever seeing any other practitioner. My favourite was a man/woman/ villain who offered 'Remote' lessons and 'Attunments'. All you had to do was send your credit card number and you could request several a week ( at 200 pounds a pop ). I checked it out and the address is an empty building in London due for demolition. It's just a web-site registered in a phony name. These 'just give us your money and we will attune you remotely' sites are everywhere.

They all put an inordinate emphasis on certificates which tells me someone could in no way know if the person they went to had to go through some kind of training or just paid their money and got a diploma which allows them to charge people.

There's no way of checking if the 'certificate' means anything...at all.

It's a new-age jungle out there.

Marto

Reiki was around long before the 'New Age', and we are not all in it to use it as a license to print money, as for my own teacher I paid a total of £50 for both level 1 and 2, and considering the time and effort my teacher put into the courses well worth the money. Yes I agree that some are simply in it to make money and nothing else. As to the Reiki organizations in the UK, well I don't belong to any of them, but I can well imagine that they have legitamite expenses to cover, like the running of offices and websites. One last thing as I said earlier in this thread, I don't charge for sending Reiki, and I don't charge for any attunements, not what I came into Reiki for. However I don't see why providing they don't over charge why Reiki practitioners shouldn't if they so choose make a reasonable living from Reiki

I could pay to become a become a Wiccan 5th degree priest without leaving my desk (at work, no less), which would be a particularly neat trick as in my case it would involve sprouting a new set of genitals.

There are charlatans in any field- Reiki is no different.

[edited in an attempt to get vaguely back on topic]

Personally I have had small amounts of Reiki treatment and found them useful, but I'm willing to put that down to the placebo effect.

I have no faith whatsoever in the healing power of crystals, given the way many of them are harvested, so if a reiki practitioner tried to use them on me I would probably laugh myself out of the building.

I'm attuned to reiki level 2 and if/when the time is right will perhaps eventually do my Masters attunement. I have never agreed with the notion of reiki healing being a means of making money or used as some kind of "business." I also have heard of obscene amounts of money being charged for healings. I tend to do therapy swaps with friends, rather than actually charge money.

We're all individual and I actually never use crystals alongside reiki. Not because I think it's wrong, but it just isn't my way. I have nothing against crystals and always have some in a pouch in my bag; but don't use them in reiki healing.