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morbidia
i suffer with Fibromyalgia and have been attending a support group for a few weeks,one of the ladies there has offered me Reiki healing ,do any of you know anything about this,i dont know much about it to be honest ,but from what i do know i cant see how it works,she has done lots of courses and is about to be come fully qualified,i dont know anything about her or how to check she knows what she is doing either,any helpful suggestions would be great
Tas Mania
I suggest you PM Shakala about this - he's the resident expert hereabouts!
morbidia
thanks Tas,will do,i must admit that at the moment im in so much pain im willing to try anything
Avalyn
If anyone is willing to reply to this publicly I would be interested to read the response, myself also having fibro and have had reiki suggested. smile.gif
morbidia
QUOTE(Avalyn @ Nov 3 2008, 12:44 PM)
If anyone is willing to reply to this publicly I would be interested to read the response, myself also having fibro and have had reiki suggested. smile.gif
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hi can i ask ,have you tried any alternative therapies,i spoke to a specialist today and he said acupunture can be useful,he told me it had to do with displacement of pain,so you sitmulate on area and the pain goes away in another

the only problem i have with it is affording the treatment,i wish i could get it on the NHS
andy9xyz
Elbee used to be a member here. Her husband had been in a car crash and had a lot of nerve pain as a result.

He was pretty sceptical about alternative therapies until he discovered that reiki could relieve his pain where strong doses of morphine couldn't. He's a big bluff, no-nonsense, kind of bloke but he swore that when he was in pain he could phone his reiki practitioner and she could sort him out over the phone.

As for people who say that, "it's all in the mind" - I have a friend who successfully practices reiki on animals so I don't see that it can be psychotherapeutic.

Why not give it a try? It works for many people.
Avalyn
Thats great Andy, thank for the reply. biggrin.gif



Hi morbidia, I tried reflexology so far, 3 sessions, as you say finding money for these things to try out is difficult. Sadly it didn't work for me however it did for 2 other of her fibro patients, it's different for everyone it seems same as all the fibro treatment rolleyes.gif The practitioner also tried indian head massage on her other patients but it didn't work on either. I start hydrotherapy next week, this at least is provided by the NHS, I am hoping to try Reiki next month. Acupuncture is a no-no for me, I am severely needle phobic ph34r.gif
Shakalah
Reiki is a form of energy healing, and works alongside conventional treatments. The practitioner channels the energy via various hand positions to the client, some practitioners use a hands on method, but personally I hold my hands slightly above the client. Also Reiki can be channeled from a distance, something I do myself for a number of people, and from the feedback I have had, Reiki does work, and if you are at all interested in trying distance Reiki for yourself, then please do feel free to pm me. Something else I am prepared to do, is offer one to one distance Reiki via IM.
Moongazer
I have FM and have had acupuncture on the NHS - usually the physiotherapy dept have someone trained to do it.

However, it made the pain worse, that was when they could get the needles to stay in, because the muscles were so tight the needles just bounced back out.

Also, they dont look at it in the same way as the traditional principles of accupuncture. Instead, the NHS they see it as a way to stimulate the bodies own endorphins and increae blood flow to the affected area, and this means if the needles dont hurt as they go in and then get wiggled, it isnt working, so they use thicker needles (I still couldnt feel them as my pain levels run so high anyway, even normal cramp doesnt hurt me anymore blink.gif )

However - accupressure does seem to ease things a bit for me, and you can do this for yourself - if you can reach your trigger points, or someone else can do it very easily. My physio showed me how - you find a pressure point and press on it - this WILL hurt, so only press as hard as you can stand for 30-45 seconds.

I am doing this once a week - that is all - and I am finding a real sense of relief once the pressing stops and a softening of the muscles for a couple of days after.

Now - back to the original question about FM and Reiki - I tried that too, and all that happened was I was in agony after being in the same position for such a long time and spent about 3 days recovering. I also have Reiki 1 myself and find it really does nothing for me.

However, that is just my experience and I agree, when you are in pain, you will try anything.

Hot wheat bags, magnesium supplements, massage (by someone who wont do more harm than good, mind you) are all things that will give some relief, (or they do for me, anyway) but I have come to the conclusion after trying just about everything, even painkillers for cancer patients, that nothing does more than take the edge off the pain, unfortunately. But that doesnt stop me from still trying stuff - LOL.
Tas Mania
Can I also add that there are other Reiki practitioners and excellent healers on the forum as well! (Just so as not to inadvertently miss others out...)
morbidia
QUOTE(Moongazer @ Nov 4 2008, 08:58 PM)
I have FM and have had acupuncture on the NHS - usually the physiotherapy dept have someone trained to do it.

However, it made the pain worse, that was when they could get the needles to stay in, because the muscles were so tight the needles just bounced back out.

Also, they dont look at it in the same way as the traditional principles of accupuncture. Instead, the NHS they see it as a way to stimulate the bodies own endorphins and increae blood flow to the affected area, and this means if the needles dont hurt as they go in and then get wiggled, it isnt working, so they use thicker needles (I still couldnt feel them as my pain levels run so high anyway, even normal cramp doesnt hurt me anymore  blink.gif )

However - accupressure does seem to ease things a bit for me, and you can do this for yourself - if you can reach your trigger points, or someone else can do it very easily. My physio showed me how - you find a pressure point and press on it - this WILL hurt, so only press as hard as you can stand for 30-45 seconds.

I am doing this once a week - that is all - and I am finding a real sense of relief once the pressing stops and a softening of the muscles for a couple of days after.

Now - back to the original question about FM and Reiki - I tried that too, and all that happened was I was in agony after being in the same position for such a long time and spent about 3 days recovering.  I also have Reiki 1 myself and find it really does nothing for me.

However, that is just my experience and I agree, when you are in pain, you will try anything.

Hot wheat bags, magnesium supplements, massage (by someone who wont do more harm than good, mind you) are all things that will give some relief, (or they do for me, anyway) but I have come to the conclusion after trying just about everything, even painkillers for cancer patients, that nothing does more than take the edge off the pain, unfortunately.  But that doesnt stop me from still trying stuff - LOL.
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hi ,i cringe at the thought of having a massage,just the thought of someone touching me makes me hurt sad.gif i do however naturally press on areas gently sometimes when they are hurting,pressure works on my shoulders,but my main problem is my legs and hips,i havent heard of magnesium supplemments being used i might try that
i have a wheat bag and if my hips are hurting i sometimes use deep heat spray and that will relieve it if its not to severe
i do take painkillers everyday as i dont think i would get through the day without them especially at work,but i would like to think i could manage without them at some point
i am doing lots of stretching exercises at the moment that have been reccomended by the pain clinic and they help to stop me stiffening up but dont help with the pain
morbidia
QUOTE(Avalyn @ Nov 4 2008, 12:39 PM)
Thats great Andy, thank for the reply.  biggrin.gif



Hi morbidia, I tried reflexology so far, 3 sessions, as you say finding money for these things to try out is difficult. Sadly it didn't work for me however it did for 2 other of her fibro patients, it's different for everyone it seems same as all the fibro treatment  rolleyes.gif  The practitioner also tried indian head massage on her other patients but it didn't work on either. I start hydrotherapy next week, this at least is provided by the NHS, I am hoping to try Reiki next month. Acupuncture is a no-no for me, I am severely needle phobic  ph34r.gif
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hi ,i work in a hospital and we are offerd reflexology sessions once a month as part of the caring for the carers scheme,i havent plucked up the courage to try it yet ,didnt it really hurt,i would be interested to find out how the hydrotherapy goes,one of the ladies in the pain clinic i go to asked if it was available here and they said no,even though there is a pool in the hospital where i work...

Laineethepainter
Hiya, I have FMS and started to have Reiki treatments on a regular basis 2 years ago. I am now a Reiki healer, but I'm still working with my Master to build up my client list. I used to use a walking stick, now it is folded up in the bottom of my bag. Each person with FMS has similar but differing symptoms. Reiki may work for some, not for others. Moongazer, I don't understand your pain during Reiki, what position where you in and for how long, if you don't mind me asking? Most clients are laying down on a treatment couch with cushions and a fluffy blanket, and the treatment usually lasts half an hour to an hour, depending on the condition of the client being treated. I do know that some practitioners have the client seated, but this doesn't, in my opinion, give the deepest relaxation. I have treated clients myself this way, but only when there is no other alternative. This is usually when I'm at the market and a fellow trader needs de-stressing fast! Some Reiki practitioners in our local area charge upwards of £35.00 for a half hour session, our treatment centre charges £10.00 for half an hour, so making Reiki more readily available to people on lower incomes, plus we do gift vouchers! All I can suggest is that you try it and if it's not for you, at least it won't have done you any harm. Most practitioners have their certificates on the wall of their treatment centre, also check if they have first aid training. You could also check with your local authority to see if they have been checked out by the Health and Safety Department. Let me know how you get on, if you would, please? Take care xx
Moongazer
QUOTE(Laineethepainter @ Nov 6 2008, 11:52 PM)
Hiya, I have FMS and started to have Reiki treatments on a regular basis 2 years ago. I am now a Reiki healer, but I'm still working with my Master to build up my client list. I used to use a walking stick, now it is folded up in the bottom of my bag. Each person with FMS has similar but differing symptoms. Reiki may work for some, not for others. Moongazer, I don't understand your pain during Reiki, what position where you in and for how long, if you don't mind me asking?


I dont mind you asking. I was lying on a treatment bed, about half an hour on my front and half an hour on my back. But lying flat for that long is what caused the problem - it was long enough for my muscles to seize up and seriously complain.
Gryphon
I've done Reiki for quite a while (over seven years) now as both a personal tool and as a treatment. I was part of a Reiki share for 3 years.
It is a good healing system which others have gone into already. I'd like to add my perspective about Reiki that I think is very important.

What is being channed is energy, which is like any energy including magic. Its the intent that matters. Reiki is seen and intended as being a healing energy so it frequently brings that energy into play. However the person who is channeling this energy's mental state can and will affect the energy. Adding to it in a way. So say if they are annoyed some of that will filter through or cling to the Reiki energy and go with it into you.


I only treat or send energy if I a semi meditative state. Relaxed but outwardly aware so I am factored out as much as I can manage. I also put up psychic protection to keep us both seperate so only the Reiki/other healing energy I can send is sent.

Another thing. Think Tarot.
Would you want to go to someone who really earnestly wants to help? Or would you prefer to go with someone who sounds good and/or is only in it for the money. This like with so much else, you get out of it what you put into it.
If they put effort into learning, growing, being immersed in the spirituality that originally came with Reiki. Then what comes out of it will be far better in healing and attunements than someone who is doing it without that intention.

As I have said before, I have seen people messed up from a Reiki attunement. The person i'll describe now had been bullied into it by her master and she wasn't right physically or mentally. Her aura was all over the place, she was ungrounded and unable to cope with the heightened energy. and this attunement CANNOT be reversed, it can be repaired but once you are attuned you can't be unattuned.
Another has ME. She couldn't get out of bed for months because she wasn't treated gentlely enough. A readig done showed that the master was only focused on the money and pushed the symbols through.


Reiki can be used to empower as well as heal and that goes for whatever the person is doing. This can include the darker energy work we do. Magic is channeling energy, Reiki is energy and can be used for that fashion irrespective of what people want to believe because it gives the person more energy and empowers them. As has been covered by the white/black magic thread here many times. Energy is energy and its the intent that makes it. Reiki is no different


Think of the intention of the person, and protect yourself from negative/non beneficial healing energy and see if it works for you.
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