Ive probably discussed this before but its back in my head.

So you meditate and get into a relaxed state and protect yourself by whatever means is appropriate to you then you may choose to go off and talk to the spirits, now thats the point of this discusssion. If we assume you get over the point of random noise in the brain and then you may hear voices, lets refer to them as 'evil' or low level entities that may not be very freindly, so you can past (or above) them and move on then you may encounter spirits which could be ancestral or other spirits. In my case the ancestral ones could be any back typically 100 years, the others could be strangers firing information at me (although somewhat sporadic at times). In my case the voices are usually monotonic, sometimes i can distinguish femal from male, occasionally i dont hear the words, just see them as if they wehre typed on peices of paper and they are flying towards me, i can sometimes get names, places and even dates, see images, even video clips of events, but so far never anything that you could verify scientifically.

Now i used to have theories that if you assume a spirit world exists and they wanted to contact us, then placing a thought in someones mind is simply an energy field that results in the firing of certain neurons, hence you may hear voices, see things etc etc. Some of the voices could indeed be your subconcious talking to you giving you advice, whilst others i clearly dont belong in that category, although there is probably a very fuzzy boundary between the two.

So the question is what do you think ?

This is an interesting topic and something that I often think about because I too have 'heard' voices and not necessarily while meditating. It happened to me more often as a child and I often wondered if it is some form of telepathy, something you may be picking up from someone.

I do remember an incident several years ago when Mom was playing cards with some friends. My Aunt was over from England a few months after I visited there. There was a problem that I wanted to find out what and why something happened. Mom however expressly forbade me to talk about it with her but of course I didn't listen. I started to talk to my Aunt and actually heard Mom yell my name. I was startled and looked up and she hadn't said anything. This happened twice until it discombobulated me enough to shut up. I asked Mom afterwords and she said she hadn't said anything but was thinking it and it startled her when I told her what she said (thought) and how she said it!.


On the other hand, about a year ago, I kept hearing a child calling for 'mommy' in the hallway of our apartment. There are no children in this complex except for the Super's son and they live two buildings away. Everytime I went and open the door, (It sounded like it was coming from outside my door) there was no one there. I heard it several times and then just as suddenly as it came, it went and haven't heard anything since then.

I have also been startled when alone with someone calling my name, so who knows? I'm just glad I'm not the only one who has had experience with this.

I often here voices, sometimes its my name, others its just some random sentence which means about as much to me as any conversation overheard on the bus.

Sometimes its just a single tone, like a buzz or a musical note.

More often when I'm meditating its images I get, sometimes its faces who just seem to be looking at me. Today it was some toadfaced baby that was pointing and talking. (gee I hope he wasn't insulted by that as I got the feeling he might have been some sort of deity-where is that emoticon for 'sheepish grin'?)

Kev

Hmmm... My experiences are diverse. From as long as I can remember I know things in front or I know things about someone nobody told me. I made mistakes with this because others do not know you already know and that can be nasty if you begin to talk about it. Well, some paragnost called me telepathically, I am a good receiver. Most often too good. It made me very scared sometimes. Untill I knew it was not me who was producing this feelings and images, but others. The problem for me is that I closed my doors for this because I could not handle it. But I do not know how to use it without harming myself. Ofcourse I still feel what another feels but I ignore it because when it has not been sad it is not a fact to me. And all the other things I block because it is too much. But now I feel incomplete, like I am ignoring a part of myself. But I do not want to go to far because my ex boyfriend got psychotic messing around. It is dangerous to me as long as I do not know more. Maybe you should be more carefull if you do not know what is talking to you/ influencing you. I do not see what you get out of this or are you just practising? I mean, I do not wish to throw open all my communicationlines because I know what is out there. Maybe I have a trauma? Hmmmmm

I'd say you need to research, read read and read more, learn how to put up psyic defenses and learn how to tap into your gift without it harming you.

You are wise to be cautious, but at the same time I do think it would be a shame to ignore your gift.

Yes I understand. That is what I feel too. What can I read (have no clue about good books/sites)?

I think you'd do well to go into a bookshop like Treadwells in London or even your local New Age shop and ask if they can help you.

This isn't an area I've studied overly myself, so I'm not the best one to advise you I'm afraid, particularly, as I don't have this gift, I'm a wee bit empathic and I do sometimes hear things and get a sense of something being there, but its not often and not very strong.

Maybe keep an eye on your local press and pop along to a psyic fair chat with the people there see if they can giveyou some ideas. I'm sure people on here might have some ideas too.

I recently read Rae Beths book - she's a solitary witch and in the book (which is a series of letters) she does describe trancework and putting up defenses, it might be a good starting point, probably what struck me, is she describes pretty much what I do anyway, so for me it was a nice bit of confirmation... but there is tons of stuff out there, browse waterstones, new age/spirituality shops, search the internet.

Sorry, I'm still very fluuy so I cna't remember for the life in me what the book is called.

Oh, have a look on amazon too, surprising, there are a lot of good books on there.

Okay thank you. I never went to London (from Holland), but we got big shops as well. But there seems to be so much rubbish, I do not know what to choose. I like high level reading because I get bored fast. Maybe someone else got suggestions? I will look for Rae Beth.

I agree but often even the fluffy stuff has a book list of recommended reading on which more high brow stuff is mentioned. I tend to find what I'd consider fluffy is usually because the author has tried to make it too simple.

Good luck with your search - you might do better to post a seperate post asking if anyone can recommend any books on telepathy and psyic defenses - I'm sure someone will be able to help you.

Good idea!

interesting thread. i would thoroughly recommend rae beth's books by the way

a few weeks ago i thought i heard sometone calling my name, i went into the other room to see what my mother wanted me for because i thought it was her ... but she just looked at me funny it happened again the next night too. i have no idea what it means though.

Does anyone have the full reference to Rae Beths book ?

the rae beth book is called "the hedge withces way" i think

heres a link to her website though, that may be more helpful than me!!!

rae beth

Dion Fortune has published a book called Psychic Self Defense, which might be worth a look, but get it from a library if you can, I've not read it so can't speak for its worth. I can say that it was recommended to me by someon whose judgement I respect.

Mediums say that we all have the ability to receive messages. Mediums, and I mean working Mediums, also say that we must be personally in control of mediumship and that means only receiving messages when it is convenient for the medium to do so and not allow spirit to be in control.

I have never heard spirit so I can't say how I would receive a message but I do think no matter how spirits get in contact, it is important for us, the living, on the earthly plane to be in control of the earthly life.

It seems a simple thing to say but it is true.

In a similar vein though I do receive messages from a guide and this has altered my life. Still I do not receive messages without being in control of the situation through meditation, and whether people believe it is my subconcious mind or a spiritual guide, I believe the knowledge is from a greater intellegence. We all are part of that though.