THE TRUTH IS NAKED.
This idea is that; as soon as you conceptualise [give meaning] the ultimate nature of existence then you have lost its true meaning! The ultimate nature of reality it is not a god or gods [nor male/female entity]! Nor is it an ‘energy’ an intelligence nor entity – yet it is the physical universe when manifest. Everything is somehow inherent within ‘it’. Time space & energy are also manifestations of the ultimate nature of reality. When you think about it there must be an original source of all things! Not just the physical, but law and principle too!
Once it is written it is lost…
Thence, if the truth is beyond meaning - how can it be written, the bible, Koran & all religious literature are philosophical works - NOT the word of god - because god does not speak! Or there is no god as such – more of an ‘it’.

This can be an alternative to god/s or no god philosophy. Something real that all things come from, but not in the sense of being created by someone/thing. We bring ourselves into being! & We are therefore we must be – our nature exists thus it is mirrored in the original self.

The idea is that the truth is an actual nature of existence. I am talking about ‘the ultimate nature of existence’, what is it? But this idea is different from the Buddhist notion of nirvana, because I am not saying that everything except nirvana is unreal!
The idea [naked truth] is based on the druidic concept of ‘the divine centre’ [annwn]; basically if you could access it then you can make anything come into being! [You know all that conjuring stuff] the druids believed that everything was born of this place even the gods and philosophical principles.
With this concept I am exploring the idea that the universe came from a ‘primal space’ that I call ‘the ultimate nature’ i.e. the singularity was/is the foetus within the ‘eternal womb’ [metaphorically speaking]. One cannot conceptualise it at all – it is naked & anything we say it is – it is not, firstly I would go to the notion of ‘the simplest thing’ then to the primal reality. This cannot be altered, imho it’s like this; you have a blank sheet of paper [naked truth] you put a dot on it [which represents the singularity/manifestation] then you have both the dot and the paper – this does not mean that the original state is changed! Thus that state is still there has & will always be there! As far as magic goes - if you meditate and ‘enter’ [orbiting the annwn] the void it is like a doorway to anything & anywhere you can think of!



This is an addition & furtherment of ‘the ghost universe’ & ‘when everything = zero’ threads. What do you think of all this?

err yeah that was kinda what i said an hour before you posted this!



well you seem to be giving it a good go!



yes concept, idea, not fact!



you really DONT want to know what i honestly think!
but what i will say...

you have some interesting ideas... that could be put across better!
i admire sheer bloody mindedness or at least i did the other day!
and if you are going to reference something then at least try and get concepts right i.e. kabbalah

and with that note i shall end this post here!

Err where did I mention the kabbalah!
If you can put these ideas across better then do so!
If you got nothing to add then ad nothing.

I think you have more time on your hands than is healthy.

Otherwise I can draw some parrallels with my own beliefs but I am not going to debate them here.

um... right here!



this concept being kabblist, unless you were refering to something else you made up? i'm still eagerly awaiting a reply off you on that post! and as for me putting this idea across better! what i said was...



i dident say i have nothing to add, i just stated anything more than what i'm allowed to post on here might cause offence to you.