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    • Ellinas

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      What is "pure" or "purity", and how would one recognise it?

    • OdinsDaughter64

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      Here are my thoughts about this topic, Authentic most likely exists and there are many great groups, bigger or smaller ones. I would say that a good leader is half of the group. Sometimes it does happen that maybe a group is based upon a pure thing though the group has their own (sometimes even hidden) rules or that they are very selective into whom they allow into their group. For me its really also about this purity, it has to come from within them to have a set of shared beliefs. Creating this bond goes deeper than preforming a ritual or ceremony together. the purer the deeper and the more the group dynamics and common energies can be used for the bennifit of the whole group.

      The reason that i am no memeber of any group is that I find some to do opposite things as what they claim to stand for. And I feel that sometimes they exclude others too due to a very tight set of rules. In all respect this is by no means any personal critiscism. It is healthy to ration or reason but if your intuition is aligned than that can be a valid concept too. I think this choice is all rather personal. Another thing is that one should look at what the purpose is to join a group. In my humble oppinion magical work or healing work can not just be "taught". In some ways people connect a system of levels, degrees, a certificate to it. Remember that in the old times it took a lifetime to become a shaman, a druid, a healer etc.

      Many a times people were born into a linneage of shamans, healers, witches. The modern times and internet has allowed us bare simple humans to gaze into the crystal ball and there is a world of mazes out there. Now it doesnt matter to receive any certifacate or so. Though for me that would be a sign to internally invest a group. Because some groups only offer theoretical knowledge that one can also find in books. The real learning is into blending. And it also involves your own personal queste, your journey, your life. Through any group work be it magical, healing or other, the layers of the self are peeled off. This can involve stirring, emotions, transcendent and transformational shards of the process. Therefore good leaders and assistants are needed. One has to be aligned with the other members of the group and take care of any part. I would say encouragement and a possitive approach are important. i have seem miracles unfold in the heart of a group. But i have also seen chaos.

      Greets

      Anne

    • moonwolf

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      Ask questions and if you get answers or more questions maybe you found a group that may have some worth

    • CornwallCandles

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      Hi all, 

      I invite you to check out my etsy page for my handmade traditional spell/ mood novena candles. 

      https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/CornwallCandles

       

      Thank you, 

      Martin

    • OdinsDaughter64

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      5 hours ago, hedgerose said:

      I have, or maybe had, a crow. I have interacted with him in meditations and dreams. But spiritually, I went through an odd patch around the change of life, adjusting to the upheaval. A time of necessary change, and things do tend to shuffle and change position and priority. As a result, the bond I had with him has not been as strong in recent years, he's still there in the background, but seems to have withdrawn. I have been getting the sense of something much smaller, still a bird I think, but I'm not certain, whoever it is hasn't made themselves known fully yet. But something has been tugging at the edge of my awareness recently. 

      In lockdown, I am lucky the area supports a lot of wildlife, despite being urban, I'm on the edge of semi rural part. I pay attention to the birds and the trees, I even saw a fox the other morning. There is also the river, which has been important to my family for years. My father as a boy, and myself with the children, have lived near the Ely river along different stretches of it, but within a short walk away. Now I'm right at the mouth, nearest I've ever been. (There are cycle paths along there apparently, but I wouldn't like to tackle them without help. Someone who can advise me I'm too close to the edge, grab me if I wobble and if necessary jump in after me. Perhaps not, then.) Part of the unexpected consequence of all this has been the tightening of focus on a restricted area, and more wildlife has been encouraged by the quiet streets to wander closer to us than before. Things do seem to be picking up though, even here, so that probably won't last much longer.

       

      Rose , your post was so well expressed, the way you described it made me see it with my mental eye!

      I am Fortunate to live closer to the country side. Closer to the country side meaning not on the main land but on one of the islands on the west coast. If I write or say "I live on an island! I have the feeling people tend to expect Im in the middle of nowhere and  have to row to get my shopping or something.. But no, there is a LOT of urban life which I wot talk about in this post. Id like to express my gratitude to the landscapes I have nearby. Your story about wildlife is one I deeply care about. 

      We should leave the wildlife as it is. If we would then more animals would return to the wild, the same with the flora and fauna. I used to live closer to wild nature where I could see eagles soaring. Sometimes an owl visited my garden. There was a wild streaming river which I miss still. The sound of it was like nothing else. There also is an area where you can walk which has lakes and you come to this hairpin path going up and look into a fabulous landscape. If the local community would advertise for it I am sure this would be a route that would be visited even more. Not many take the whole route though cause its a steep one.  

      A local farmer said he has seen the Gaupe, or norwegian lynx there. This is a very small version of a lynx so its really like a big cat. How i would love to see one of these in its natural environment. Seeing these animals return to the local wildlife is great. Lets hope we humans will keep it this way!

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    • hedgerose

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      I have, or maybe had, a crow. I have interacted with him in meditations and dreams. But spiritually, I went through an odd patch around the change of life, adjusting to the upheaval. A time of necessary change, and things do tend to shuffle and change position and priority. As a result, the bond I had with him has not been as strong in recent years, he's still there in the background, but seems to have withdrawn. I have been getting the sense of something much smaller, still a bird I think, but I'm not certain, whoever it is hasn't made themselves known fully yet. But something has been tugging at the edge of my awareness recently. 

      In lockdown, I am lucky the area supports a lot of wildlife, despite being urban, I'm on the edge of semi rural part. I pay attention to the birds and the trees, I even saw a fox the other morning. There is also the river, which has been important to my family for years. My father as a boy, and myself with the children, have lived near the Ely river along different stretches of it, but within a short walk away. Now I'm right at the mouth, nearest I've ever been. (There are cycle paths along there apparently, but I wouldn't like to tackle them without help. Someone who can advise me I'm too close to the edge, grab me if I wobble and if necessary jump in after me. Perhaps not, then.) Part of the unexpected consequence of all this has been the tightening of focus on a restricted area, and more wildlife has been encouraged by the quiet streets to wander closer to us than before. Things do seem to be picking up though, even here, so that probably won't last much longer.

       

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    • OdinsDaughter64

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      Yes I have some sacred animals whom I seek guidance from and some of these give me new inspiration. One of te most powerful impressions was when i was a child. We went to this pond in the forest. It was a warm summers day and above the heat the sun shone  pearlescent light upon the water. Dragonflies were dancing hanging on the invisible strings of that moment so Id choose them. they have literally opened my eyes by showing their humble beauty.

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    • Earthdragon

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      Surrly all this has something to do with quantum?

      (My idea of doing your funny but am actually being serious too 🤔🤓)

      Edited by Earthdragon
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