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      Somewhere to post queries and information about Pagan supply shops, both on and offline, and advertise your things for swap or sale. We allow limited notifications of your E-Bay adverts but don't overuse this. All deals are of course private between the individuals concerned.

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    1. Starters Orders (basics)

      Ground work, foundations and basics. A good place to start for those new to paganism.
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    • Ellinas
      For some, maybe.  But others just hope to be asked what it means or why they are saying it.  It's all about conversations to evangelicals.
    • Stonehugger
      Maybe DV is a bit of a code; a special handshake; a shibboleth. (This conversation is making me think of the "wee donkey" in Line of Duty.)
    • Ellinas
      Well, I suppose if you exclaim the name of someone else's deity, it is suitably meaningless and innocuous to the exclaimer.  Thinking about it, I occasionally use "Jesus wept" - old habit from way back, probably even my pre-Christian days, let alone pre-pagan. Regarding "god willing", I know Christians who use that habitually, or even "DV", though it escapes me as to why strongly anti-catholic types would refer to Latin.  I do have an issue with it - for the evangelicals, it is part of their evangelising strategy to advertise their "faith" and "dependence on god".  At best (as they see it), it will give them the chance to start a "conversation" (thinly veiled personal preaching session), and at worst, it is a form of subliminal planting of a message. And that issue is quite apart from the fact I've never seen an instance of god's will that is not, quite clearly, based on the desires of the individual human.
    • Moonsmith
      I didn’t have a problem with Insha’llah, whatever we were discussing would probably get done.  What I didn’t want to hear was: IBM:-   Insha’llah, ‘Bukra,’ and ‘Ma’lesh, It is said with very varying degrees of sincerity and means God willing, tomorrow, whatever (who cares?)  Salt has been very precious so spilling it mattered and was obviously the devil’s fault.  When I tried to explain de-icing roads in the uk the first thing I was asked was, “How do you get it back?”  How many Pagans yell or mutter, “Good God” or “Christ!” Or even “bloody”?  
    • Stonehugger
      My daughter lives in Dubai and says that "inshallah" [God willing] means "I'll do it when/if I get round to it!"
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