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What's An Angel Then? - wings and fings.

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How many forms of energy do we need in order to to function?

By this I mean, how many labels do we feel we have to use in order to VALIDATE what we experience/believe?


Just a thought...

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Well said Tas & Quas :o_rofl:


That's exactly what I was trying to say. It's not often I go off on a long one, please' scuse me!!


Things are what they are at any given moment..



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  • 5 months later...

This is an interesting thread. I work with angels, or in any case, in my perception I work with angels. I don't believe angels are winged messengers of God as they may be viewed in Christianity. Angels, or higher beings of some form, are common to many religious beliefs. To me, it's entirely logical that these beings of higher vibration exist, and how they are viewed is down mostly to interpretation.


For myself, I believe archangels to be columns of light holding a particular vibration of love; and angels to be light beings that break away from these fixed "gateways" if you like. The whole physical world is populated by beings and objects which have a particular vibration, and why shouldn't there be more than the physical senses can usually perceive?


When I began working with angels, and particularly archangels, on specific issues in my life, I found that coincidence would follow coincidence and help would come in unexpected ways. I have also had dreams about several of these beings which have a particular lucid quality and usually carry spiritual messages or knowledge.


For a couple of years I have also been doing archangel readings for people - using oracle cards as a base, but most of what I write just comes - and people will say that it's amazingly accurate and aspects of the readings go on to come true. From the fact that the readings are always positive - though sometimes it's pretty tough love - I doubt that it's a mischievous spirit or anything negative giving me the information.


Maybe it's my own higher self, I mean I have no way of actually knowing, but to me the words come from something external to myself - they just seem to come from nowhere. However we perceive this higher consciousness, though, I'm 100% sure it is there. It is just down to interpretation.


By the way, it's about your perception I guess but it's right to say that the theory goes that angels and archangels are androgynous - however, some of them feel like a definite gender to me, Michael being one as someone else has previously pointed out. And this isn't always male - Archangels Haniel and Jophiel feel definitely female to me and Archangel Zadkiel more often than not, too. But that is down to my perception. Just a thought.

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First off a Disclaimer "While I classify myself as a Pagan Magician, I'm not sure others would classify me as a True Pagan."


I've worked with Angels, Ive invoked them several times in my Career as a Ritual Magician. And I will say with 100% Certany that they exist. Using Enochian Watchtower Angels they dont tend to appear as the Xtianised version and certanly not as Angela McGree's Divination Card sets tend to Portray them.

I find that I can quite easly fit Angelic Forms in with my Pagan Belifs.

A very rough guidline would be that Angels are higher up the Tree of Life than the "Astral" Spheres of Yesod, Hod and Netach. Thieir usuall stomping ground is the area of Tipareth, Geburah and Cheshed. but there are exceptions to the rule which prove the rule :o (theres a name for that and it escapes me).


Angels will come when called. But as with Godforms and many Higher Intellegences, they don't give you what you Want they give you what you Need. The trick to self awarness is knowing the difference.

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The thing I love about paganism is there is no set doctrine and so many different paths.

I am a reiki master and yes, I work with angels very closely when healing. They aren't to me great winged beings sent from god at all. They are spirt beings of enormous energy who resonate with the different colours of the spectrum. They aren't human and aren't spirit..kind of inbetween to me.

I know many will disagree with me, at my own weekly group I think I am one of about 2 who believe in angels, but as I said, you find your own path and make your own way. My way includes angels.

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