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Piecing Together The Puzzle...

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Ok, so my first post proper outside of my introduction…so I will expand a little on the basic framework of that initial post.


At the moment I feel a little devoid of spirituality, being caught up in the stresses of everyday modern life, for the majority of my life however, I have felt a deeper connection whilst being out and amongst nature. I was a little obsessed by the occult/ghosts etc. as a school kid which progressed a little further until I stumbled across Wicca and established a general interest in that during my teens. The particular elements I was drawn to was the reverence of nature and the universe, but the worship of deities have never really sat quite right with myself. Also the usage of rituals to celebrate the seasons/solstices and so forth I find very comforting, basically anything that is related to what is referred to as ‘the old ways’ I generally feel a kinship with.


Delving further into Paganism, the myriad of different paths aside from Wicca out there became very apparent…but I don’t know what category I fall under and feel a little lost and unable to talk with anyone who shares similar interests. I am also very interested in the spiritual and transcendental qualities of certain styles of music which in turn share some links with paganism, natural reverence and as a way to ‘ground’ myself.


When I say I don’t believe in deities as literal forms, I would certainly find more favour in using the images of gods/goddesses as a main focus point during ritual, which would personify certain natural elements and nothing more. I tend to have a disagreeable attitude towards full on organised religions (such as Christianity). However I certainly don’t dismiss the possibility of humans ability to maybe control or utilise the earth’s natural energies in the form of magick or ritual (again though I lean towards the realist view of the usage being for self-empowerment and personal focus rather than straight up ‘magical’ abilities…but due to some certain profound moments I encountered during my study of Wiccan beliefs and practises…I can never be so sure!).


I have tried to spell out my different beliefs as they sit right now, albeit not fully formed or with general purpose (non-practising), any ideas/suggestions/pointers that you folks could shed on which path I am heading towards with be gratefully received. This question has been bugging me for some time, till now it’s got the point where I really need to express and discover what my ACTUAL spiritual path is in life…very frustrating.


Many thanks in advance!









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I think it is fair to say that none of us can point you in the direction of any path that you should be taking :) Like any real physical pathway, you put one foot on it followed by the other and start walking! You have already done some reading and considering of the things you have encountered. Maybe some more reading - explore the different known traditions within Wicca and consider Druidism, Heathenism and so on. There are people in The Valley from every concievable pagan pathway - we all walk our own which may, for instance, closely follow Gardnerian Wicca but may also have other interests along the way which are woven into one's own belief system - and so on!

In Starters Orders there are many threads about all sorts of things and are specifically there to help people coming new to The Valley and their choices for a pathway.

I wish you every blessing as you start your journey and as you go, ask any questions you may have - there's always someone willing to give you their point of view :D

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You are already on your path, you always have been. It doesn't need a name unless and until you find something that other people do, that you can share and that feels right. It may never have a name. Don't hurry it and don't push it; you are already where you need to be. Tomorrow you will have traveled.


As Naomi says, no one can do this for you. Everyone here is willing to help but can only do that by answering your questions. The rest is going to take a little effort on your part. One of the wonderful things about Pagans is that most of us came to Paganism as individuals with much of what we believe already in place. Very few of us believe exactly the same thing even when we use the same label. This can be disconcerting for a new arrival in Paganism [it was for me anyway :D] On the other hand once you take a line that is true to what you already believe, a route that fits your view of life and which confirms and validates your view of the universe then you won't give a damn what others believe and you will have a spiritual confidence that is second to none!


So get digging into past threads. Crack a few more books. Formulate a few questions and put up a few posts. Gather the sometimes totally contradictory answers together and try them on for size. Above everything - enjoy the hunt wherever it takes you and don't take yourself or any one else too seriously.


Good luck.

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Hi Endtyme - welcome!


I'm a relative newcomer here myself but just wanted to point you towards a thread about atheist (or pantheist) pagans which I personally found to be really fertile ground (it's either in Starter's Orders or in General Paganism).


I too have always been put off by personifications of god/s/goddess/es, although I can definitely feel the power of calling on divine figures as archetypes or aspects of ourselves or our experience - or rather as a way of connecting to something both within us and within which we have our being - you can tell my thinking is a bit confused on this!


I'm really interested in what you say about spirituality and music - can you expand on this a bit and what kind of music has this meaning for you? - if that's not too personal.


Also (again if it feels ok to talk more about it) I'd love to hear more about your (possibly) magical experiences as this is something I have lots of doubts about myself. Not even sure if it exists...?! or am I just still allowing myself to be put off by the popular image of "new age" beliefs?



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