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I saw a hare this morning while walking the dog. I turned and saw a hare about 20 feet away. Then it vanished. Not by running away but vanished into thin air. Here then gone! Can anyone throw any significance on this sighting please?

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Fast and in colour, blending into the landscape and they don't just run away in a straight line, they jink and dart about to evade capture. When they are resting, they make a surface burrow and lie in it, level with the soil in the field - very hard to pick out :)

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Hi Nomis,

My answer above might have read a bit glib. It wasn't. I won't go into details here as I've discussed augury and prediction at length elsewhere.


In my opinion the appearance of your hare and its subsequent disappearance was a random event - well its disappearance was probably caused by you and your dog.


However, the whole event had an impact upon you. That is what is significant. What were your feelings as you saw the hare and again after it had vanished.


In your position I would use the experience as I use runes.


When I select a rune from the bag I do not think that anything is presenting me with the rune. The selection is almost random. "Almost" because it depends how thoroughly I have mixed them since I last used them.


Let us suppose that I draw the vertical line of the rune Is or Isa . The brief meaning without any other context is:

Coldness. Cold relationships. Struggling to no avail. Situation is frozen. Time to mend, maintain and reflect. This rune is irreversible.

What is my reaction to this:

If I laugh and say "The dishes can wait then", it is that reaction that is important. I'm clearly in a good humour and in a positive frame of mind. The rune has tricked my subconscious into becoming visible. If on the other hand my reaction is "Oh no, I'm never going to get that ritual written and out before Samhaine" then I know something different. I know that writing the ritual has become a negative experience or that it is my current actual priority whether I'm attending to it or not. I can read that reaction. I can either tell myself to put the ruddy thing away for today and come back to it fresh tomorrow or I can kick myself up the miasmic arse and buckle down to it. If I react to the idea that the rune is irreversible it may be that I'm feeling that my life is out of my control which of course it isn't.

[The rune is irreversible only in that it is the same either way up - some folk read the orientation up or down as significant - but not apparently, sideways]


In using the runes I'm simply holding up a mirror to my subconscious. I might do the same with your Hare.


On the other hand you may feel that the hare appeared as an omen or sign. You may be wondering if you have an affinity with Hare. In that event there are others who can guide you better than myself.


Obviously I'm not going to leave it there when there is an opinion to be expressed so may I add:


If you must look for an external significance:

Get yourself a journal and start logging experiences like this. Record date, time, day of week, weather, mood as well as the event. Leave lots of space after each one so that you can record anything that you think might be connected with the experience afterwards. After some work you might be able to see patterns in the events in your life. Even here the rational within me says "Please close off any sort of predictive association after a reasonable time". The fact that you found an old horseshoe and nailed it to your door in November is not in my view connected with your lottery win the following July.

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Very comprehensive and thank you for your view Moonsmith. The other 2 above can have detention for not reading the question. :o_nono:

I think it was an sign as the way that the hare dematerialised in front of me. I have spoken to another with such into such thing and she said it was a sign from the goddess, in my case that would be Hecate as she (can)materializes as hares.I had only mentioned a short time earlier that I felt I was in the doldrums spiritually. And then this occurs without any pre-thought, when my mind was in neutral.

I am quite happy to accept that this is a sign and am naturally quite excited about it and ask what is next? Am I about to pass over I wonder? (as I have had some serious medical problems with near death sepsis and e-coli in the blood, putting me in hospital on a drip for a week, and i still have some problems ongoing from this. This was only 6 weeks ago). I don't know what is in store. Some my say that this is a stupid thought but I asked for comments specifically in the 'learning ' part of the forum and wonder if anyone can throw any light on it?

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Beware! Amateur psychologist at work!


As I read it, you are concerned about your health.


If you think that you are playing an end game then check! Get a medical specialists opinion. If you believe that your demise is imminent it is you that is saying that not the hare. Salute Hecate by all means but do it at a crossroads in the grounds of the health centre - preferably tomorrow.

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Not stupid at all, but I think that your reaction may be indicative of your mental state. It sounds as though you have been very seriously ill in the recent past with ongoing problems and this is very probably affecting your thought processes.


The hare could mean anything or nothing and either way it may take a while to find out (if you ever do).


I strongly endorse what Moonsmith recommends - if you're worried about your health and you've been seriously ill recently get to your doctor. Hecate will wait.

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Is the detention over yet? Mind, I maintain, having re-read the question, that "should've gone to Specsavers" is a perfectly valid view of both the significance and the points to be learned.


Anyhow, on a more serious note, Hekate can manifest however she wishes, in my view, and if she was out to get your attention it would be in unmistakable and no uncertain terms. However, you seem to be toying with the idea of being in a liminal sort of position, on a threshold of... something...


You may be right. You probably are. Ultimately everything is a doorway to somewhere - which is why Hekate has such influence. Whether it has anything to do with parlous health and impending dissolution is, as stated above, something better discussed with a doctor.


And if this has given you a spiritual boost, so much the better. That may, indeed, be the whole point.

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Please go and get checked out. The last thing any of us wants is you in ill health. I agree with freydis - Hecate can wait. After all she has the time to. I hope you're okay.


Waes Hael.

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Thanks friends for your concerns. i am seeing a urologist as part of my follow up so the docs are 'watching me'. I had a cystoscopy last Thursday, If you don't know what it is don't look it up as you'll never uncross your legs and if you're offered one RUN!! :o_bolt:

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